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    Reckless motorists

    When it comes to sharing the road with cars, many people seem to assume that bicycling accidents are usually the cyclist’s fault — a result of reckless or aggressive riding. But an analysis of police reports on 2,752 bike-car accidents in Toronto found that clumsy or inattentive driving by motorists was the cause of 90 percent of these crashes. Among the leading causes: running a stop sign or traffic light, turning into a cyclist’s path, or opening a door on a biker. This shouldn’t come as too big a surprise: motorists cause roughly 75 percent of motorcycle crashes too.

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    Re: Reckless motorists

    I posted it in a prior thread, but in 2007, in the State of Iowa, the great majority of reported car-bike accidents were caused by the bike.

    I would say that bike riders act irresponsibly at a much greater rate than motorists, though they are both irresponsible at a high rate. I've very seldom seen a motorist driving on the sidewalk, or blowing through stoplights/stopsigns completely. Both of which are illegal activities I've seen bicyclists do routinely.

    I have no pity for the "opening doors" thing. As far as I'm concerned, it's 100% on the bicyclist to watch out for that. It's called defensive riding/driving.

    Your post is directly contradicted by my own experience/observations.


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    Re: Reckless motorists

    No matter who is at fault of a bicycle - vehicle accident on a high speed road, bicyclists lose every time. Some common sense needs to be used.

    UPDATE: Authorities identify cyclist killed near Cumming | DesMoinesRegister.com | The Des Moines Register


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    Re: Reckless motorists

    Quote Originally Posted by alaskaguy View Post
    When it comes to sharing the road with cars, many people seem to assume that bicycling accidents are usually the cyclist’s fault — a result of reckless or aggressive riding. But an analysis of police reports on 2,752 bike-car accidents in Toronto found that clumsy or inattentive driving by motorists was the cause of 90 percent of these crashes. Among the leading causes: running a stop sign or traffic light, turning into a cyclist’s path, or opening a door on a biker. This shouldn’t come as too big a surprise: motorists cause roughly 75 percent of motorcycle crashes too.

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    If you are bike rider, riding on the road with cars, trucks, etc., going 60 mph, you are taking your life in your own hands, IMO.



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    Re: Reckless motorists

    As a motorcyclist I have to agree. If I'm in the blind spot of a car on the highway and they hit me than it's their fault but I know enough not to ride in someones blind spot and I know that I will be the one that dies. I also know that I wouldn't ride a scooter on a road that was designed for 45mph traffic if it could only go 25mph. This is the biggest problem I have with bicycles. If they were only allowed on roads with speeds limits of 35mph or less I wouldn't have a problem.



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    Re: Reckless motorists

    Quote Originally Posted by michaelrr1 View Post
    No matter who is at fault of a bicycle - vehicle accident on a high speed road, bicyclists lose every time. Some common sense needs to be used.

    UPDATE: Authorities identify cyclist killed near Cumming | DesMoinesRegister.com | The Des Moines Register
    I agreed with the bicyclists loses everytime, but who are you directing the common sense comment at?

    G-14 is a very heavily traveled road. Most bikers call it devils highway. I have seen a few people ride this road before and I even road it once before I figured out PEOPLE DRIVING are just too impatient and lack any type of attention.

    I had my arm brushed by a mirror one day on it, so I hit the vehicle with my water bottle out of instinct. The driver had the nerve to pull over and yell at me about hitting his vehicle with a water bottle. Seriously, if he would of gave me even less room he would of had a nice human sized dent.



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    another cyclist killed in des moines area

    As far as depth goes though, the combination of White, Woodbury, Olaseni, Basabe, and Uthoff is much better than Niang, Ejim, Edozie, Gibson. Not because of the top 2, but because of the next 2 or 3. -DeanVogs

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    Re: another cyclist killed in des moines area

    Man, that is horrible. On a rural road and an ISU grad to boot.



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    Re: another cyclist killed in des moines area

    And another driver flees after not being able to handle the responsibility of being licensed to drive a motor vehicle.


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    Re: another cyclist killed in des moines area

    Quote Originally Posted by LindenCy View Post
    Man, that is horrible. On a rural road and an ISU grad to boot.
    it is horrible...


    As far as depth goes though, the combination of White, Woodbury, Olaseni, Basabe, and Uthoff is much better than Niang, Ejim, Edozie, Gibson. Not because of the top 2, but because of the next 2 or 3. -DeanVogs

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    Re: another cyclist killed in des moines area

    The fam' and I drove right by the accident scene after it happened yesterday. We didn't know for sure what happened, but with the crumpled bike still lying there and all the officials running around, it wasn't hard to guess. Made it pretty quiet in the car for a few minutes.

    We'll be looking for this low-life. If he lives in the area he'll be caught, and I hope his days are pure torture while he lays low waiting for it.



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    Re: another cyclist killed in des moines area

    Terrible... Just terrible...



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    Re: another cyclist killed in des moines area

    How could anyone live with themselves after hitting and killing someone. Unless you are a piece of ****, then you could,.... I guess.



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    Re: another cyclist killed in des moines area

    I'm shocked how these are happening on rural roads. There is really no reason for a bike-car accident on a rural road.



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    Re: another cyclist killed in des moines area

    It is extremely low to drive away after an accident like that. He certainly could have been drunk or high or something.

    I would imagine they will find him since there were witnesses.

    Also, cyclists do take a risk when they venture out on roads that are made for automobiles. Pure physics dictate that they will be on the losing end of any accidents.



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