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    Who belongs?

    This was forwarded to me and I think it is interesting. Points were given to each Big 12 school (for the 3 most popular NCAA sports) based on bowls and tournament appearances, and conference and national titles since the founding of the Big 12. Here are the results (larger the number the better the school):

    School........FB...MBB...WBB...Total
    Baylor........0....5.....42....47
    Missouri......13...25....13....51
    Texas A&M.....20...13....20....53
    Colorado......26...10....20....56
    Oklahoma St...7....41....9.....57
    Nebraska......44...10....16....70
    Texas Tech....14...13....43....70
    Kansas St.....26...16....32....74
    Iowa St.......8....28....42....78
    Kansas........9....101...19....129
    Texas.........51...51....41....143
    Oklahoma......74...53....63....190



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    Re: Who belongs?

    Never mind...




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    Re: Who belongs?

    I spose a few bowl games and we did tie for the big xii north


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    Re: Who belongs?

    Quote Originally Posted by CycoCyclone View Post
    I spose a few bowl games and we did tie for the big xii north

    Of course we tied for the north division...Good old pinkie mizzou took care of my trip to KCity and I had to cancel my hotel room!!!


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    Re: Who belongs?

    We would have scored a ton of points in the 2000-2005 years, considering WBB is probably one of their top 3 sports:


    Year FB MBB WBB

    2000 Bowl NCAA NCAA

    2001 Bowl ---- NCAA

    2002 Bowl NIT -----

    2003 ---- NIT NIT

    2004 Bowl NCAA NCAA

    2005 Bowl ---- NIT

    (Postseason appearances in these 6 years: 5 bowls, 2 NCAA's, 2 NIT's, 3 women's NCAA's and a WNIT. Looking at all 3 sports combined over that period, we had more postseason appearances than anyone else in the Big XII. Then we hired you-know-who.)

    2006 ---- ---- NCAA

    2007 ---- ---- NCAA

    2008 ---- ---- NCAA


    Gene Smith, 1993-2000. 7 years, 6 NCAA's, 1 bowl game. Revenue sports postseason participation 50%. Good.
    Bruce Vandevelde, 2000-20005. 5 years, 4 bowl games, 2 NCAA's, 2 NIT's. Postseason participation 80%. Better.
    Jamie Pollard, 2005-. 4 years. 1 bowl game, 0 NCAA's, 0 NIT's. Postseason participation: 13%. The next big step.

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    Re: Who belongs?

    Quote Originally Posted by jaretac View Post
    This was forwarded to me and I think it is interesting. Points were given to each Big 12 school (for the 3 most popular NCAA sports) based on bowls and tournament appearances, and conference and national titles since the founding of the Big 12. Here are the results (larger the number the better the school):

    School........FB...MBB...WBB...Total
    Baylor........0....5.....42....47
    Missouri......13...25....13....51
    Texas A&M.....20...13....20....53
    Colorado......26...10....20....56
    Oklahoma St...7....41....9.....57
    Nebraska......44...10....16....70
    Texas Tech....14...13....43....70
    Kansas St.....26...16....32....74
    Iowa St.......8....28....42....78
    Kansas........9....101...19....129
    Texas.........51...51....41....143
    Oklahoma......74...53....63....190

    You should throw in wrestling and see how we look after that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmith86 View Post
    You should throw in wrestling and see how we look after that.
    That's not a fair measure since only 5 schools have that sport. You'd have to throw in baseball to counter the bias.



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    Re: Who belongs?

    Quote Originally Posted by MontyBurns View Post
    We would have scored a ton of points in the 2000-2005 years, considering WBB is probably one of their top 3 sports:


    Year FB MBB WBB

    2000 Bowl NCAA NCAA

    2001 Bowl ---- NCAA

    2002 Bowl NIT -----

    2003 ---- NIT NIT

    2004 Bowl NCAA NCAA

    2005 Bowl ---- NIT

    (Postseason appearances in these 6 years: 5 bowls, 2 NCAA's, 2 NIT's, 3 women's NCAA's and a WNIT. Looking at all 3 sports combined over that period, we had more postseason appearances than anyone else in the Big XII. Then we hired you-know-who.)

    2006 ---- ---- NCAA

    2007 ---- ---- NCAA

    2008 ---- ---- NCAA
    Monty, I'm guessing you are divorced, or your wife is deaf. I'll bet she gets annoyed hearing every day how she didn't fold your clothes right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MontyBurns View Post
    We would have scored a ton of points in the 2000-2005 years, considering WBB is probably one of their top 3 sports:


    Year FB MBB WBB

    2000 Bowl NCAA NCAA

    2001 Bowl ---- NCAA

    2002 Bowl NIT -----

    2003 ---- NIT NIT

    2004 Bowl NCAA NCAA

    2005 Bowl ---- NIT

    (Postseason appearances in these 6 years: 5 bowls, 2 NCAA's, 2 NIT's, 3 women's NCAA's and a WNIT. Looking at all 3 sports combined over that period, we had more postseason appearances than anyone else in the Big XII. Then we hired you-know-who.)

    2006 ---- ---- NCAA

    2007 ---- ---- NCAA

    2008 ---- ---- NCAA
    Your only serious flaw is an undeserved hatred of JP. And this thread isn't about him.


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    Monty. How can you blame 2006 on JP? Since you ignore me I will wait for someone else to answer.
    Posted via Mobile Device



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    Re: Who belongs?

    Quote Originally Posted by MontyBurns View Post
    We would have scored a ton of points in the 2000-2005 years, considering WBB is probably one of their top 3 sports:


    Year FB MBB WBB

    2000 Bowl NCAA NCAA

    2001 Bowl ---- NCAA

    2002 Bowl NIT -----

    2003 ---- NIT NIT

    2004 Bowl NCAA NCAA

    2005 Bowl ---- NIT

    (Postseason appearances in these 6 years: 5 bowls, 2 NCAA's, 2 NIT's, 3 women's NCAA's and a WNIT. Looking at all 3 sports combined over that period, we had more postseason appearances than anyone else in the Big XII. Then we hired you-know-who.)

    2006 ---- ---- NCAA

    2007 ---- ---- NCAA

    2008 ---- ---- NCAA
    you should drop your lame schtick and support the teams we have not the teams you seem to have an overly nostalgic view of. you're gonna have a lot of crow to eat if JP's programs ever turn the corner and exceed what you are romanticizing as the greatest period in Iowa State history. there is truly nothing like a fan who seems to be hoping his school's programs fail just to prove a point...and this is what you appear to be by the incessantly repetitive theme of your by now VERY predictable posts. Maybe you could spare us all having to read if you came up with something new and just put an "*" in which would mean your opinion and disdain for all things changed by Jamie Pollard remains the same.



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    Re: Who belongs?

    What was the point assignment for each accomplishment?


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    Quote Originally Posted by superdorf View Post
    Monty. How can you blame 2006 on JP? Since you ignore me I will wait for someone else to answer.
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    This is a good question.



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    Re: Who belongs?

    Quote Originally Posted by jaretac View Post
    This was forwarded to me and I think it is interesting. Points were given to each Big 12 school (for the 3 most popular NCAA sports) based on bowls and tournament appearances, and conference and national titles since the founding of the Big 12. Here are the results (larger the number the better the school):

    School........FB...MBB...WBB...Total
    Baylor........0....5.....42....47
    Missouri......13...25....13....51
    Texas A&M.....20...13....20....53
    Colorado......26...10....20....56
    Oklahoma St...7....41....9.....57
    Nebraska......44...10....16....70
    Texas Tech....14...13....43....70
    Kansas St.....26...16....32....74
    Iowa St.......8....28....42....78
    Kansas........9....101...19....129
    Texas.........51...51....41....143
    Oklahoma......74...53....63....190
    Was WBB added by the orginator just to make us look better?
    It's out of place on a table such as this, as it pales in importance to the other two and is a big money loser for all schools.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Was WBB added by the orginator just to make us look better?
    It's out of place on a table such as this, as it pales in importance to the other two and is a big money loser for all schools.
    Actually, I'm sure that WB was added to make Baylor look better...but if you picked a "third" sport, it would have to be WBB.

    The truth about Baylor is that the final spot in the conference came down to former SWC schools Houston, Rice and SMU, along with the Bears. The Ponies had done themselves a big nasty with the NCAA, and UT and A&M didn't want a Big XII school with a hometown recruiting base in Houston. So Baylor was elected.




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