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    Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

    One is a major crime and considered horrible

    one is honorable and considered artistic.


    If Vick was out fighting bulls for sport would he be viewed the same way? Or was it more the fact that he lied right away about what he did why people are so upset with him. Is it just the fact that we have chosen to have dogs as pets?

    I dont know a lot about either really, but I do know both result in dead animals caused by humans
    for sport.


    Disclaimer ........ Im not at all supporting or defending Vick. His past has shown many bad decisions and personally what he did I think was really wrong.



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

    I don't think you'll find many people who aren't South American that think bullfighting is "honorable" and "artistic".



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

    Vick got a raw deal IMO. But in our society we make smaller things bigger & bigger things smaller.

    No doubt he should have gotten in trouble and jail time but to be thrown under the bus like he has while murderers are playing in the NFL just shows you how messed up society has gotten



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

    Quote Originally Posted by superdorf View Post
    I don't think you'll find many people who aren't South American that think bullfighting is "honorable" and "artistic".
    Mexico?



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Vick got a raw deal IMO. But in our society we make smaller things bigger & bigger things smaller.

    No doubt he should have gotten in trouble and jail time but to be thrown under the bus like he has while murderers are playing in the NFL just shows you how messed up society has gotten
    Why did Vick get a raw deal?

    I understand that others may have received less punishment for what are considered more heinous crimes... but what does that have to do with Vick. And obviously according to the NFL and the Eagles they don't really care what he did in the past.



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

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    Mexico?
    Ok... Should have said from Central or South America. Sorry.



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

    Why did Vick get a raw deal?

    I understand that others may have received less punishment for what are considered more heinous crimes
    I think that's the definition of a raw deal. Others got a lesser sentence for a worse crime.



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

    Quote Originally Posted by superdorf View Post
    Why did Vick get a raw deal?

    I understand that others may have received less punishment for what are considered more heinous crimes... but what does that have to do with Vick. And obviously according to the NFL and the Eagles they don't really care what he did in the past.
    Raw deal when comparing it to others. I value a humans life more than a pets. Thus I think him spending that much time in jail and getting suspended 6 games is a raw deal when you compare him to Leonard Little, Donte Stallworth, Pac Man Jones.

    Heck even Plaxico is getting a raw deal. 3 years for shooting yourself on accident? Give me a break



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

    Okay... A drunk driver kills someone. Yes. This is a terrible crime that deserves punishment. Did the drunk driver with malice and aforethought seek out to kill another person? No.

    Did Michael Vick knowingly allow for dogs to be tortured and killed? Yes.

    That is the difference... That is why he didn't get a "raw deal".



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

    Quote Originally Posted by superdorf View Post
    Okay... A drunk driver kills someone. Yes. This is a terrible crime that deserves punishment. Did the drunk driver with malice and aforethought seek out to kill another person? No.

    Did Michael Vick knowingly allow for dogs to be tortured and killed? Yes.

    That is the difference... That is why he didn't get a "raw deal".

    You could argue that a drunk driver assumes the intent by getting in his car.

    Anyway, I was just curious if most people thought bull fighting was just as stupid as dog fighting.



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

    Yes. Back to the topic. Bullfighting is even more stupid than dog fighting.



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

    Quote Originally Posted by superdorf View Post
    Okay... A drunk driver kills someone. Yes. This is a terrible crime that deserves punishment. Did the drunk driver with malice and aforethought seek out to kill another person? No.

    Did Michael Vick knowingly allow for dogs to be tortured and killed? Yes.

    That is the difference... That is why he didn't get a "raw deal".
    Ray Lewis. Great comparison. He sat there and watched his buddy kill a dude. No biggie. Let him play

    Michael Vick. Watches his buddies dog fight and kill dogs. HANG THE MAN!!!



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

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    Ray Lewis. Great comparison. He sat there and watched his buddy kill a dude. No biggie. Let him play

    Michael Vick. Watches his buddies dog fight and kill dogs. HANG THE MAN!!!
    Did I say that?

    If you think that our justice system is totally fair in every case then you are crazy.

    In your example I would say that Ray Lewis gave the justice system a raw deal. It doesn't mean that Vick got a raw deal.



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

    Quote Originally Posted by superdorf View Post
    Did I say that?

    If you think that our justice system is totally fair in every case then you are crazy.

    In your example I would say that Ray Lewis gave the justice system a raw deal. It doesn't mean that Vick got a raw deal.
    I know the justice system is messed up. I tell my wife (soon to be attorney) how messed up it is and that she needs to fix it

    Seriously though, 2 years for pretty much betting on dog fighting? No proof of him ever kiling a dog. Sure he owned dogs that he fought but is that worth 2 years? Especially when murderers get less?



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    Re: Dog fighting vs Bull fighting

    Quote Originally Posted by superdorf View Post
    Ok... Should have said from Central or South America. Sorry.
    Actually bullfighting stems mainly from Spain



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