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    Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

    NEW YORK -- At least eight players -- and possibly more -- on the list of 104 names seized by the government did not test positive for steroids, Major League Baseball said Saturday.
    In statements ahead of a news conference at Yankee Stadium, the commissioner's office and union general counsel Michael Weiner said the number of players on the list exceeds the number that the union and management agreed had tested positive.
    "There are more names on the government list (104) than the maximum number of positives that were recorded under the 2003 program (96)," MLB said in a statement. "And, as the Mitchell Report made clear, some of the 96 positives were contested by the union. Given the uncertainties inherent in the list, we urge the press and the public to use caution in reaching conclusions based on leaks of names, particularly from sources whose identities are not revealed."
    Weiner said some positives could have been caused by nutritional supplements and that some scientific questions remain over the 2003 survey tests.
    Baseball said in November 2003 that 5 to 7 percent of the of 1,438 anonymous tests in that year's survey were positive for banned substances, which works out to 72 to 101 tests.
    "Accordingly, the presence of a player's name on any such list does not necessarily mean that the player used a prohibited substance or that the player tested positive under our collectively bargained program," Weiner said.
    The survey was designed to determined whether baseball needed mandatory random drug testing with penalties starting in 2004, with a 5 percent threshold for positives triggering future testing. While the exact number of 2003 positives was subject to dispute, the sides never worked that out because they agreed the percentage was over the threshold


    Now everyone that has their name released will claim they are 1 of the 8



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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

    I feel sorry for that man. Middle school must have been hell for Mr. Weiner.


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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

    If he ever joined the Army, I can only imagine what Basic Training would be like for him.


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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

    Now they are saying it may have only been around 80 positive names



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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone62 View Post
    I feel sorry for that man. Middle school must have been hell for Mr. Weiner.
    Pronounced Whiner, not what you think.



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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

    Quote Originally Posted by BCforISU View Post
    Pronounced Whiner, not what you think.


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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

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    Pronounced Whiner, not what you think.
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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

    Quote Originally Posted by BCforISU View Post
    Pronounced Whiner, not what you think.
    Yes, kids are TOTALLY going to latch on to pronunciation instead of spelling.


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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

    Quote Originally Posted by hurdleisu24 View Post
    Now they are saying it may have only been around 80 positive names
    If true, that destroys the credibility of the list being used as a way to harass players on the list. However, the media has used stories with no credibility before to destroy a person's identity, so it probably won't change anything.



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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

    Both owners and the player's association need to realize that their legitimacy hinges on this topic, and information leaking out over a long period of time only prolongs the scandal. I think they need to come clean, put it out in the open, and then move on.



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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

    When something like drinking Vitamin water can trigger a positive test, then you know there is going to be problems. They need to say what each player tested for every time there is a positive test. The media was FAR too careless in reporting these early in the steroid stories, calling everything steroids...



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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    When something like drinking Vitamin water can trigger a positive test, then you know there is going to be problems. They need to say what each player tested for every time there is a positive test. The media was FAR too careless in reporting these early in the steroid stories, calling everything steroids...
    No offense, but that sounds just like the myth that eating a poppy seed bun will turn your drug test positive.


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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

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    No offense, but that sounds just like the myth that eating a poppy seed bun will turn your drug test positive.
    It's true, there are 8 flavors of Vitamin water that will trigger you positive... Most energy drinks will as well...



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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    It's true, there are 8 flavors of Vitamin water that will trigger you positive... Most energy drinks will as well...
    Is there some kind of empirical documentation on that?

    It's not you. I've just heard so many urban legends on things like this that they aren't very believable without some sort of documentation.


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    Re: Atleast 8 of the 104 didn't test positive for steroids

    I'm really surprised that the players union has not sued the newspaper. That information was supposed to be sealed and depending on where the individual got the information they could be breaking the law.



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