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    Rhoads compared to McCarney

    I know comparisions are being made and from an emotion and energy standpoint Paul seems very similar to Dan McCarney.

    However that's where the similarities end for me.

    Maybe it's just me, but when I watch Paul Rhoads answer a question he always seems to have an intelligent well thought out answer. He doesn't seem to spin things and he always has a reason why something is a problem and a plan to remedy it. He talked tackling technique yesterday. I just don't remember Dan McCarney talking about anything as simple as that at a media day.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to slam Dan and he did a lot of good things at ISU.

    I just think they are different people and coaches and I'm noticing more differences than similarities in their approach to the game.


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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobber View Post
    I know comparisions are being made and from an emotion and energy standpoint Paul seems very similar to Dan McCarney.

    However that's where the similarities end for me.

    Maybe it's just me, but when I watch Paul Rhoads answer a question he always seems to have an intelligent well thought out answer. He doesn't seem to spin things and he always has a reason why something is a problem and a plan to remedy it. He talked tackling technique yesterday. I just don't remember Dan McCareny talking about anything as simple as that at a media day.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to slam Dan and he did a lot of good things at ISU.

    I just think they are different people and coaches and I'm noticing more differences than similarities in their approach to the game.
    I think the media is using this connection to help the general audience identify who Rhoads is. Nobody really remembered who he was once he was hired until they mentioned that he was on McCarney's staff and he does bring back those same emotions from that era. I think the comparison is justified until the season kicks off - from that point on he will make his own legacy at ISU.



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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    Most future ISU coaches will be compared to DMac... as he brought a lot of success and lime light to the program. Personally... I hope in 25 years people are comparing our 'new' HC to HPR.

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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    I didn't hear Mac a lot, but to me, so far, Rhoads does less "coach talk".


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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    As I've said elsewhere, I hope the "personality" and "likability" factors are the only similarities that will be made. It is honestly an easy story for a lot of media outlets that don't want to spend a lot of time on it and yet look like they have offered an insightful point.

    Dan was the head spin-master. Don't get me wrong, like most everyone I love what he did for the program and I liked him, but I am not unhappy he is gone.

    Hopefully what we are seeing from Paul carries over to the field. I am really impressed by his intelligence and passion...which I think is prevalent in him much more than he has let everyone see.



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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobber View Post
    I know comparisions are being made and from an emotion and energy standpoint Paul seems very similar to Dan McCarney.

    However that's where the similarities end for me.

    Maybe it's just me, but when I watch Paul Rhoads answer a question he always seems to have an intelligent well thought out answer. He doesn't seem to spin things and he always has a reason why something is a problem and a plan to remedy it. He talked tackling technique yesterday. I just don't remember Dan McCarney talking about anything as simple as that at a media day.
    It's mind-boggling that you feel you can judge a coach based on how they explain things to the media. Laughable, really.
    Dan McCarney talked plenty about "tackling technique" where it really matters - on the practice field.



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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    i am hoping to NOT hear "we played a very inspired football team today, no doubt about it"



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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    It's mind-boggling that you feel you can judge a coach based on how they explain things to the media. Laughable, really.
    Dan McCarney talked plenty about "tackling technique" where it really matters - on the practice field.
    Well I suppose I can simply judge based on wins and losses. Don't know if we want to go there...



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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobber View Post
    Well I suppose I can simply judge based on wins and losses. Don't know if we want to go there...
    This just in - Mac's time had run out - something was indeed wrong in his last several seasons here. His last year was awful - just awful.
    But I get so tired of posters like you talking about Mac's "spin."
    You should have attended one McCarney practice - just one.



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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobber View Post
    Well I suppose I can simply judge based on wins and losses. Don't know if we want to go there...
    That's just it. The only way you can possibly compare McCarney and Rhoads is in the preseason before their first years. That's all that Rhoads has accomplished so far. McCarney was a defensive guy, I'm sure tackling technique was important to him...



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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    Quote Originally Posted by egami View Post
    I didn't hear Mac a lot, but to me, so far, Rhoads does less "coach talk".
    This.



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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    My opinion of Rhoads so far is that he's a lot like Mac, but I think he has a higher ceiling. I hope he doesn't get stuck in his ways. Mac just did not want to adjust his offense when the Big 12 started changing.




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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    Right now in terms of passion I think they're both at a similar level, but with different personalities. If I were Cyclone Fan I think the biggest concern I'd have is if Rhoads can build a program. By and large, Mac wasn't a terrible coach, a great motivator and was good for the university...I think Rhoads will easily live up to that. But can Rhoads make this a winning program? That will be what really separates them, if anything.


    There is really only one valid reason to hate Michigan football, and that is the fact that we taught Notre Dame the game.

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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    It was clearly time for coach to move on if ISU wanted to take a step back then hopefully move forward. How would we all feel about coach Rhoads being hired if the last two years never happened? I just hope the guys don’t really hit people coming off the bus (had to have fun with it) because I'm usually standing there. But I do understand what cpr meant.



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    Re: Rhoads compared to McCarney

    I hope CPR doesn't wear bright red pants like Mac did in his first game. Go with the khakis CPR-



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