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    How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    I see it mentioned a lot that the Cubs have a horrible farm system. How many of these guys were products of the Cubs farm system, as opposed to coming over in a trade?

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    Also - Randy Wells is starting to build a case for rookie of the year.



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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    Quote Originally Posted by DJK15 View Post

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    Also - Randy Wells is starting to build a case for rookie of the year.
    All were drafted by the Cubs or signed as an international Free Agent (Marmol/Guzman), except for Hart, who came over in the Patterson trade I think.
    Also, if you look at the draft year of all the guys you listed, it was all under McPhail, who is a great judge of talent, as you can see by what the Orioles have coming up. I think that's the biggest part of it all... he really knows how to find top level talent.
    As for Wells and ROY - you have Rasmus and JA Happ as well. Probably some others I'm forgetting.

    The thing you're getting to though, I believe, is that while this Cubs team may have a lot of pieces from their system, there is nothing there ready to step up and help in the next next 2 yrs or are worth anything in the trade market. That's why it's considered so weak.


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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    i think wells deserves some legitimate consideration for ROY. he has been awesome

    14 starts, 7-4, 2.84 ERA, 95 IP, 60 K, 21 BB, 1.15 WHIP

    those are really good numbers


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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    Are you listing people that are playing with the Cubs and have come from our farm system because if so, you have missed Hill, Blanco, Fontenot, Zambrano.


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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    Quote Originally Posted by LetsPlay2 View Post
    Are you listing people that are playing with the Cubs and have come from our farm system because if so, you have missed Hill, Blanco, Fontenot, Zambrano.
    No, just listed a few of the better ones that have been called up in the past 2-3 years.

    And I believe Fontenot came from the Orioles.



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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    Sean Marshall and Jeff Samardzija too and I don't know if Fuld was drafted or not by the Cubs.


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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    Fontenot came for the Sosa trade, Hill came up through the Arizona Cardinals organization I believe, and not sure if Blanco has always been with the Cubs or not.


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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    Quote Originally Posted by DJK15 View Post
    I see it mentioned a lot that the Cubs have a horrible farm system. How many of these guys were products of the Cubs farm system, as opposed to coming over in a trade?

    Theriot
    Soto
    Fox
    Hoffpauir
    Marmol
    Wells
    Hart
    Guzman

    Also - Randy Wells is starting to build a case for rookie of the year.
    They have a horrible farm system right now. They haven't always been, but the system is extremely thin now.



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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    Quote Originally Posted by travman23 View Post
    Fontenot came for the Sosa trade, Hill came up through the Arizona Cardinals organization I believe, and not sure if Blanco has always been with the Cubs or not.
    Hill played pro football?



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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrossCyed View Post
    They have a horrible farm system right now. They haven't always been, but the system is extremely thin now.
    What's your opinion based on? I doubt many of us here can independently evaluate a farm system very well


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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    I guess I was just listing people who played significant time in atleast triple A. I follow the I-Cubs pretty close being in Des Moines and going to quite a few games each year.


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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    Quote Originally Posted by Incyte View Post
    What's your opinion based on? I doubt many of us here can independently evaluate a farm system very well

    BaseballAmerica.com: Prospects: Rankings: Organization Talent Rankings: 2009 Organization Talent Rankings

    Baseball America had them 27th out of 30.

    BaseballAmerica.com: Prospects: Rankings: Organization Top 10 Prospects: Chicago Cubs Top 10 Prospects

    Vitters is widely regarded as an impact prospect, and Cashner is held in pretty good standing but after that potential talent is largely in the lower levels and far more questionable compared to teams that have prospects producing at the AA level, for example. Samardzija is up there too but he hasn't been overly super.

    Only Vitters (51) and Samardzija were in the top 100 at the beginning of the year. Vitters has likely improved his stock, but I don't think the Cubs have much past their top 3 whatsoever.



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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    Hill played pro football?
    Doh, D'Backs I mean... is it 5pm yet?


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    Re: How many of these Cubs were products of the farm system?

    Quote Originally Posted by DJK15 View Post
    I see it mentioned a lot that the Cubs have a horrible farm system. How many of these guys were products of the Cubs farm system, as opposed to coming over in a trade?

    Theriot
    Soto
    Fox
    Hoffpauir
    Marmol
    Wells
    Hart
    Guzman

    Also - Randy Wells is starting to build a case for rookie of the year.
    All of them



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