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    OLine size

    After reviewing the latest pre-fall depth chart I was shocked to see how large our Oline is. I'm not sure I've ever seen a front 5 weigh so much, I'd like to see how this compares across the country.

    We have have 3 starters above 330lbs (not counting Hicks) Are these accurate weights? If so, how nimble and athletic can these guys be?? I firmly believe the success of a football team relies heavily on the Offense Line. I like the size and strength these guys appear to have but hopefully the trade off isn't immobility. I also love the fact that we have 5 guys returning with starting experience. Any thoughts?


    LT
    72 *Kelechi Osemele, 6-5, 349, So.#
    67 **Matt Hulbert, 6-7, 297, Jr.# or
    79 Brayden Burris, 6-6, 277, Fr.#


    LG
    73 ***Reggie Stephens, 6-3, 333, Sr.#
    75 Hayworth Hicks, 6-3, 346, Jr.

    C

    77 *Alex Alvarez, 6-2, 295, Jr.#
    64 Ethan Tuftee, 6-3, 297, Fr.

    RG
    63 **Ben Lamaak, 6-4, 318, Jr.#
    71 *Trey Baysinger, 6-5, 322, So.#

    RT
    51 *Scott Haughton, 6-3, 338, So.
    76 Zack Spears, 6-6, 294, So.



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    Re: OLine size

    I can tell you Spears, Tuftee, and KO are legit from knowing all 3. KO is just a monster, yet he's not really fat. His arms are absolutely ridiculous. Tuftee still has a lot of potential to put muscle on his frame, as does Spears.



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    Re: OLine size

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    I can tell you Spears, Tuftee, and KO are legit from knowing all 3. KO is just a monster, yet he's not really fat. His arms are absolutely ridiculous. Tuftee still has a lot of potential to put muscle on his frame, as does Spears.
    If KO is "not really fat", that is quite scary. That is a large man.


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    Re: OLine size

    Quote Originally Posted by delt4cy View Post
    After reviewing the latest pre-fall depth chart I was shocked to see how large our Oline is. I'm not sure I've ever seen a front 5 weigh so much, I'd like to see how this compares across the country.

    We have have 3 starters above 330lbs (not counting Hicks) Are these accurate weights? If so, how nimble and athletic can these guys be?? I firmly believe the success of a football team relies heavily on the Offense Line. I like the size and strength these guys appear to have but hopefully the trade off isn't immobility. I also love the fact that we have 5 guys returning with starting experience. Any thoughts?


    LT
    72 *Kelechi Osemele, 6-5, 349, So.#
    67 **Matt Hulbert, 6-7, 297, Jr.# or
    79 Brayden Burris, 6-6, 277, Fr.#


    LG
    73 ***Reggie Stephens, 6-3, 333, Sr.#
    75 Hayworth Hicks, 6-3, 346, Jr.

    C

    77 *Alex Alvarez, 6-2, 295, Jr.#
    64 Ethan Tuftee, 6-3, 297, Fr.

    RG
    63 **Ben Lamaak, 6-4, 318, Jr.#
    71 *Trey Baysinger, 6-5, 322, So.#

    RT
    51 *Scott Haughton, 6-3, 338, So.
    76 Zack Spears, 6-6, 294, So.
    If we were not going to an up-tempo, wide splits spread, I would not be too concerned, but as it is...
    It is odd now that ISU has moved to the spread they finally have an Oline that DMac would have wanted.



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    Re: OLine size

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    If we were not going to an up-tempo, wide splits spread, I would not be too concerned, but as it is...
    It is odd now that ISU has moved to the spread they finally have an Oline that DMac would have wanted.
    Tech for the last however many years has had one of the biggest OLines in the country. Those guys are beastly.



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    Re: OLine size

    Quote Originally Posted by Bader View Post
    Tech for the last however many years has had one of the biggest OLines in the country. Those guys are beastly.
    If we have beastly and mobile Olinemen like Tech I will be pleasantly surprised. Does anyone know how TT's no huddle pace compares to Rice's?



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    Re: OLine size

    but mobility is the key.

    Due to splits being so wide they are often isolated and forced to pick up Lbers in almost an open-field like capacity. I have no doubts these guys will be able to road grade up the middle when needed, but with the new offense hopefully their agility and footwork is up to snuff.

    Any ideas on the bench/squat #'s from these guys? I saw an interested thread on a K-state board that made me curious.



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    Re: OLine size

    The biggest concern would be conditioning if our offense gets fast paced.
    Watching our QB's and RB's run into a brick wall trying to run the ball for a yard or two b/w the tackles for a TD or first down is torcher. Maybe the extra bulk will get the push we've lacked for years.


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    Re: OLine size

    While I don't doubt we have some good-sized guys on our O-line, I think their heights/weights listed are probably, oh, on the generous end.

    My husband was talking about it this weekend. When he played football in college (DIII) he laughed about how his first year he was listed as 6'4" and 270ish, which was accurate. By his senior year, he was listed as 6'7" and 310. He's a big guy, but not *that* big.



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    Re: OLine size

    Quote Originally Posted by MoreCowbell View Post
    He's a big guy, but not *that* big.
    Certain things don't need to be revealed to the public.



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    Re: OLine size

    2008 OU Oline (starters in bold)

    Jon Cooper OL 6-3 290 Sr
    Jason Hannan OL 6-3 283 RFr
    Donald Stephenson OL 6-6 275 RFr.
    Ben Habern OL 6-4 275 Fr.
    Kody Cooke OL 6-4 291 RFr.
    Cory Brandon OL 6-7 308 So.
    Trent Williams OL 6-5 308 Jr.
    Duke Robinson OL 6-5 335 Sr.
    Brandon Walker OL 6-3 284 Sr.

    Brian Simmons OL 6-5 304 Jr.
    Branndon Braxton OL 6-6 304 Sr.
    Stephen Good OL 6-5 305 Fr
    Alex Williams OL 6-6 300 RFr
    Phil Loadholt OL 6-8 337 Sr.

    2008 TT Oline:
    LT:
    74 6-7, Rylan 305, Sr., 3V
    70 Chris Olson | 6-5, 271, So., 1V
    66 Omar Castillo | 6-6, 282, Fr., HS

    RT:
    67 Marlon Winn | 6-6, 325, Jr., 2V
    77 Mickey Okafor | 6-7, 326, Fr., RS
    59 Joe King | 6-6, 324, Fr., HS

    G:
    65 Louis Vasquez | 6-6, 335, Sr., 3V
    71 Stephen Hamby | 6-3, 292, Sr., 2V
    78 Lonnie Edwards | 6-5, 288, Fr., RS

    G:
    76 Brandon Carter | 6-7, 354, Jr., 2V
    69 Jake Johnson | 6-7, 370, Sr., 3V
    71 Stephen Hamby | 6-3, 292, Sr., 2V

    C:
    71 Stephen Hamby | 6-3, 292, Sr., 2V
    51 Shawn Byrnes | 6-4, 295, Jr., 2V
    73 Justin Keown | 6-4, 290, Fr., TR



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    Re: OLine size

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    Certain things don't need to be revealed to the public.
    You've met him. He's plenty big where it counts, his wallet!



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    Re: OLine size

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post

    2008 TT Oline:


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    76 Brandon Carter | 6-7, 354, Jr., 2V
    69 Jake Johnson | 6-7, 370, Sr., 3V
    71 Stephen Hamby | 6-3, 292, Sr., 2V
    6-7, 370???? Ye gods, that's getting into Jonathan Ogden territory. And for a guard no less!

    I know they don't pull linemen in that offense, but how would you like to be the OLB or SS who encounters this hoss coming around the corner leading a sweep? No thank you.



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    Re: OLine size

    What gets me is that, ver the Spring, Bliel said that he wanted them to LOSE weight. Okay, so Haughton may be down from 350 or so, but Hicks looks up from 325.


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    Re: OLine size

    Quote Originally Posted by delt4cy View Post
    After reviewing the latest pre-fall depth chart I was shocked to see how large our Oline is. I'm not sure I've ever seen a front 5 weigh so much, I'd like to see how this compares across the country.

    We have have 3 starters above 330lbs (not counting Hicks) Are these accurate weights? If so, how nimble and athletic can these guys be?? I firmly believe the success of a football team relies heavily on the Offense Line. I like the size and strength these guys appear to have but hopefully the trade off isn't immobility. I also love the fact that we have 5 guys returning with starting experience. Any thoughts?


    LT
    72 *Kelechi Osemele, 6-5, 349, So.#
    67 **Matt Hulbert, 6-7, 297, Jr.# or
    79 Brayden Burris, 6-6, 277, Fr.#


    LG
    73 ***Reggie Stephens, 6-3, 333, Sr.#
    75 Hayworth Hicks, 6-3, 346, Jr.

    C

    77 *Alex Alvarez, 6-2, 295, Jr.#
    64 Ethan Tuftee, 6-3, 297, Fr.

    RG
    63 **Ben Lamaak, 6-4, 318, Jr.#
    71 *Trey Baysinger, 6-5, 322, So.#

    RT
    51 *Scott Haughton, 6-3, 338, So.
    76 Zack Spears, 6-6, 294, So.
    The strength coaches were working with several of those guys on losing some wt.



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