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    BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    CHICAGO -- Some tweaking to the Bowl Championship Series rules gives greater access to the Rose Bowl to teams outside the six conferences with automatic BCS bids -- such as Utah.
    "Under certain circumstances, they can play their way into the Rose Bowl, which hasn't been true in the past," Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said Monday at Big Ten media day. "That's additional access. Standards have been, I think, lightened to access the BCS."
    The Big Ten and Pacific-10 champions are contractually bound to play in the Rose Bowl unless one of those teams qualifies for the national championship game.
    Starting with the 2010 season and running through the 2013 season, the first time the Rose Bowl loses one of its conference champions and a team from one of the non-automatic qualifying leagues earns a BCS bid, the Rose Bowl must take that team.
    Since the BCS was implemented in 1998, a team from a conference outside the automatic qualifying leagues has never played in the Rose Bowl.
    The Big Ten, Big East, Big 12, Atlantic Coast Conference, Southeastern Conference and Pac-10 champions receive automatic bids to the five BCS games.
    The champions from the Mountain West Conference -- where Utah plays -- Western Athletic Conference, Conference USA, Sun Belt and Mid-American Conference do not get automatic entry into the big-money BCS games, but can play their way in. The Utes, Hawaii and Boise State from the WAC have done that in recent years.

    What does everyone think a good idea?



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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    i don't like

    i just like big ten vs pac ten tradition



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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    I am all for this. I am so sick of Pac-10 vs. the big ten blow-outs. I know traditionalist will hate it but I wasn't really a fan of college football until I started college (2002) so I am not all about Pac-10 v Big Ten. It can't hurt.


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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    the attendance for the rose bowl used to be around 100k, now its like 80k.. it does hurt ... it hurts fan interest



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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    Thats dumb as hell.



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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    the attendance for the rose bowl used to be around 100k, now its like 80k.. it does hurt ... it hurts fan interest
    some reason i think the 2009 rose bowl would beg to differ ... probably even the 2008 rose bowl ... and the 2007 wouldn't either ...


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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    The average attendance for the rose bowls

    from 1964-1997 was 103,000

    from 1998(99)-2004(05) was 92,000

    those are facts

    If they put Boise St. vs Va Tech in the Rose Bowl, the attendance would probably be 85,000 and not nearly as much TV interest

    thats my opinion



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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    i do believe they did some renovations if i'm not mistaken ... i'm not out to prove you wrong but at first you said 100k and it was an average the last 3 years of around 93k but you said it was somewhere in the 80's range ....


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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    What better cure for a hangover than watching the Big Televen get stomped on New Years Day (again...)?



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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    I think this is great for college football. Put the most deserving teams in. Period.



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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    You know your system is a big pile of crap when you have to change it every single year.



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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    I can understand why the Big10 wanted other conferences to play there....

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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    On one hand I don't like it -- tradition is one of the great things about college football and the Rose Bowl's Pac 10/Big 10 matchup has a long tradition.

    On the other hand something has to be done to make the Rose Bowl viable. Tradition says the Big 10's best goes to the Rose Bowl, but the Big 10's best no longer belongs. USC beat Penn State 38-24, Illinois 49-17, Michigan 32-18, and Michigan 28-14 in the last 4 Rose Bowls that have been Big 10/Pac 10 matchups, and the Big 10 has not been competitive in a Rose Bowl since the 1999 season. I don't think anyone can blame the Rose Bowl committee for doing what they have to do to create a competitive game.


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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    Quote Originally Posted by MontyBurns View Post
    On one hand I don't like it -- tradition is one of the great things about college football and the Rose Bowl's Pac 10/Big 10 matchup has a long tradition.

    On the other hand something has to be done to make the Rose Bowl viable. Tradition says the Big 10's best goes to the Rose Bowl, but the Big 10's best no longer belongs. USC beat Penn State 38-24, Illinois 49-17, Michigan 32-18, and Michigan 28-14 in the last 4 Rose Bowls that have been Big 10/Pac 10 matchups, and the Big 10 has not been competitive in a Rose Bowl since the 1999 season. I don't think anyone can blame the Rose Bowl committee for doing what they have to do to create a competitive game.
    Actually, if you want to be accurate, the Big Ten's second best has been going to the Rose Bowl more often than not.

    Last year Penn State was the conference's best team... but the previous two years, it was Ohio State (who played in the NC game, rather than the Rose Bowl), and the Big Ten's second best team played USC. And in 2000, Wisconsin beat Stanford, in 2001 Purdue lost by 10 to Washington, and in 2005, Michigan lost to Texas in probably the second best Rose Bowl game ever. In the remaining 4 games, the Big Ten has lost by 14 three times, and then Illinois' fantastic thrashing two years ago.

    But no, you'd probably rather not be accurate.


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    Re: BCS changes open Rose Bowl to non BCS teams

    I like tradition, but you have already ruined for all the other bowls, so why should the rose bowl be any different than any others. If the rose bowl deserves the big 10 vs pac 10, just go back to the orange bowl going to the big 8 etc., I mean big 12 champ. I am sorry you can't have your cake and eat it too.



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