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    What's your personal policy on...

    Beggars?

    Either the ones who tell you that they're begging, or ones who have a supposed legitimate reason?

    I used to give some change/couple of dollars to people that gave me some form of a sob story, but I stopped a few years ago. This was because a guy outside a Walgreens said his car broke down and he needed bus fare home. As a social experiment, I gave him two dollars, went around the block, and parked across the street to watch him.

    He went into Walgreens, left with a pack of cigarettes, and resumed his post outside of the store. I drove back and confronted him. It was fun to "catch" him and tell him what I did.

    So now, my policy is black and white. I just say, "Sorry" and move on.


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    Re: What's your personal policy on...

    Quote Originally Posted by isucyfan View Post
    Beggars?

    Either the ones who tell you that they're begging, or ones who have a supposed legitimate reason?

    I used to give some change/couple of dollars to people that gave me some form of a sob story, but I stopped a few years ago. This was because a guy outside a Walgreens said his car broke down and he needed bus fare home. As a social experiment, I gave him two dollars, went around the block, and parked across the street to watch him.

    He went into Walgreens, left with a pack of cigarettes, and resumed his post outside of the store. I drove back and confronted him. It was fun to "catch" him and tell him what I did.

    So now, my policy is black and white. I just say, "Sorry" and move on.
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    Re: What's your personal policy on...

    If they have nothing better to do with their time than to sit around asking people for money, it's likely they aren't going to do anything productive with any money you give them.


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    Re: What's your personal policy on...

    Quote Originally Posted by isucyfan View Post
    Beggars?

    Either the ones who tell you that they're begging, or ones who have a supposed legitimate reason?

    I used to give some change/couple of dollars to people that gave me some form of a sob story, but I stopped a few years ago. This was because a guy outside a Walgreens said his car broke down and he needed bus fare home. As a social experiment, I gave him two dollars, went around the block, and parked across the street to watch him.

    He went into Walgreens, left with a pack of cigarettes, and resumed his post outside of the store. I drove back and confronted him. It was fun to "catch" him and tell him what I did.

    So now, my policy is black and white. I just say, "Sorry" and move on.
    What was his response?



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    Re: What's your personal policy on...

    Quote Originally Posted by isucyfan View Post
    Beggars?

    Either the ones who tell you that they're begging, or ones who have a supposed legitimate reason?

    I used to give some change/couple of dollars to people that gave me some form of a sob story, but I stopped a few years ago. This was because a guy outside a Walgreens said his car broke down and he needed bus fare home. As a social experiment, I gave him two dollars, went around the block, and parked across the street to watch him.

    He went into Walgreens, left with a pack of cigarettes, and resumed his post outside of the store. I drove back and confronted him. It was fun to "catch" him and tell him what I did.

    So now, my policy is black and white. I just say, "Sorry" and move on.
    You really had to test what he'd do with the money?

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    Re: What's your personal policy on...

    I rarely carry cash and just always tell them I don't have change or cash.

    One time with my dad in Chicago, a guy asked my dad for spare change to eat. My dad said he'd take him around the corner and buy him a hamburger from Mc D's, and the guy took him up on it. I was about 7 or 8, and I remember my dad saying not to give them money because they're probably just going to use it for booze or cigarettes or drugs, but that when he can if it's only one person he'll buy them a burger.

    I was about the same age when I went to NYC for the first time, and I can still vividly remember the train hoppers going from car to car--they seemed to be everywhere, and coming from small town Iowa it was a shock.



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    Re: What's your personal policy on...

    Quote Originally Posted by CyPride View Post
    You really had to test what he'd do with the money?

    Pavlov's dog here.
    He did have a really convincing story, which should have been my first clue.


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    Re: What's your personal policy on...

    I generally ignore them. But it can be tough. Two weeks ago in Chicago, it was pretty hard to ignore the folks at least trying to do something other than straight up begging - those who sell the street wise mag. It's a gimmick, but at least it's something.

    We were visiting my brother who lives just north of Wrigley by the Wilson stop on the red line, and got to talking about this very thing. He said when he first moved there, there would be a few guys hanging by the train station and he'd toss whatever change he had to them when he'd come home. Then one day, out of the blue, after giving them what change he had - one of them said "I'm getting pretty ******* tired of these nickels and dimes"

    Apparently beggars can be choosers....

    Hasn't given them a penny since.



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    Re: What's your personal policy on...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cat4ISU View Post
    What was his response?
    I made it clear that I wasn't mad and basically just was testing his honesty.

    I told him I hoped he found something better to do with his life, and since my first child was a baby at the time, told him that we didn't have a lot of money, especially to give to a liar.

    I do think he was embarrassed, but I highly doubt embarrassed enough to change his ways.


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    Re: What's your personal policy on...

    Quote Originally Posted by clone2011 View Post

    One time with my dad in Chicago, a guy asked my dad for spare change to eat. My dad said he'd take him around the corner and buy him a hamburger from Mc D's, and the guy took him up on it. I was about 7 or 8, and I remember my dad saying not to give them money because they're probably just going to use it for booze or cigarettes or drugs, but that when he can if it's only one person he'll buy them a burger.

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    That's a good idea. Since my experience I posted, I've offered to take them into the store and buy them some food. They aren't too interested in that.

    Also, I witnessed a good idea a while ago. For those guys that stand at off-ramps with a sign...I saw a lady roll down her window and give him a clean pair of socks. That's useful, and he can't buy beer with it.


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    Re: What's your personal policy on...

    I just keep on moving.

    I did give to a guy that was working some begging when we lived in Nebraska. The guy had one arm, visited our church, and was a friendly guy (of course). I was curious to see how things would play out. He and I visited several times before the inevitable request for cash.

    I was politely curious, so I gave him $8, then never saw him again. He really put in a lot of time for that $8. Seems like he could have aimed higher, or at least tried harder.

    We did have a beggar in Jamaica that yelled at me. That was a little more interesting.


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    Re: What's your personal policy on...

    Have a friend that used to always give money to homeless people all the time. I always just ignored them when I lived in LA. One time in Seattle he decided to buy a few cases of beer to a homeless guy. The guy couldn't carry them both all the way back to his "shack" so my friend said he'd help him carry them. When he got to the guys place in some abandon building on the third floor, he was jumped by 3 guys, held over a balcony while they beat on him. They stole his wallet and tried dropping him over the balcony but he held on to the railing. He received a few stitches and quite a few lashings from his wife for his stupidity, but moral of the story, their is a reason why most of these people are homeless.


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    Re: What's your personal policy on...

    NO ALTRUISM! That's what I've always said.


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    Re: What's your personal policy on...

    Quote Originally Posted by isucyfan View Post
    I made it clear that I wasn't mad and basically just was testing his honesty.

    I told him I hoped he found something better to do with his life, and since my first child was a baby at the time, told him that we didn't have a lot of money, especially to give to a liar.

    I do think he was embarrassed, but I highly doubt embarrassed enough to change his ways.
    never know..

    that was nice of you tho.



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    I like the guys who tell you a couple of bad jokes then ask you for money for the privilege of hearing them. Happened to me once near the Times Square area.



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