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    2009 Offense

    Hey guys, just wanted to share my latest article. Check it out and let me know you're thoughts. I'm not getting paid for any of this (probably shouldn't be given the quality) but it has been fun for me to do...there is also a basketball page.

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    Re: 2009 Offense

    Think you did a fine job. To quote you, how many years have we been saying, "The most notable deficiency with the offense last season was the inability to convert trips to the red zone into points.

    Sadly, it is almost our trademark even back into Mac's era...go clear down the field then punt, go for 3, go for 3 and miss, turn the ball over, .....

    Hopefully, all Rhoads lead to Hermantown.i.e. RED ZONE


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    Re: 2009 Offense

    I thought Ben Lamaak was moving to center...??? Has that changed or is the article off?



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    Re: 2009 Offense

    Was it space considerations or do you not think Sed will be a top WR this year?
    My ideal Oline would be:
    Haughton LT
    Hicks LG
    Lamaak C
    Stephens RG
    KO RT



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    Re: 2009 Offense

    I was wondering the same thing. I think Sed will have a huge impact this season. In a 4 or 5 WR set, you need to have guys on both sides of the field who are deep threats in order to occupy the safties.

    This way the middle or intermediate routes have to be covered by the linebackers, making for an extremely tough matchup. (LB vs WR)



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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcyfan82 View Post
    I was wondering the same thing. I think Sed will have a huge impact this season. In a 4 or 5 WR set, you need to have guys on both sides of the field who are deep threats in order to occupy the safties.

    This way the middle or intermediate routes have to be covered by the linebackers, making for an extremely tough matchup. (LB vs WR)
    I don't think this is as big of an issue, honestly. The offense did fine outside the red zone last year. When you're in the red zone there is no running off the safeties. It simply comes down to who has the better OL and how fast can the offense make the play to move the ball or score the TD while covered.

    I think the key for ISU this year improving will be better OL play in the red zone and a more experienced Arnaud being able to transform into a play-maker at QB.



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    Re: 2009 Offense

    I'd never known anything official about Lamaak moving to C. Alvarez was there this spring.



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    Re: 2009 Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by egami View Post
    I don't think this is as big of an issue, honestly. The offense did fine outside the red zone last year. When you're in the red zone there is no running off the safeties. It simply comes down to who has the better OL and how fast can the offense make the play to move the ball or score the TD while covered.

    I think the key for ISU this year improving will be better OL play in the red zone and a more experienced Arnaud being able to transform into a play-maker at QB.
    True, but if passing is the forte of this offense, it will help to have big, physical receivers with good verticals (Sed, Hamilton, Reynolds) in the redzone.



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    Re: 2009 Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    True, but if passing is the forte of this offense, it will help to have big, physical receivers with good verticals (Sed, Hamilton, Reynolds) in the redzone.
    No question about it. I am just saying that I think the question for the offense, as alluded to with the red zone comments, will be centric around Arnaud's development as a play-maker and the OL. I think you're right that big, physical WR will help...it'll also help if they can develop a play-maker on the outside, which I don't know ISU personnel well enough to know who that could be.



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    Quote Originally Posted by egami View Post
    I don't think this is as big of an issue, honestly. The offense did fine outside the red zone last year. When you're in the red zone there is no running off the safeties. It simply comes down to who has the better OL and how fast can the offense make the play to move the ball or score the TD while covered.

    I think the key for ISU this year improving will be better OL play in the red zone and a more experienced Arnaud being able to transform into a play-maker at QB.
    I think he will be just as valuable there too.

    Most of the time one of the safties will shade a little bit one way or the other. If we have Hamilton and Sed on both ends, the safties have to either play straight up, or possibly guess which side to shade towards for the fade/jump ball.



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    Quote Originally Posted by egami View Post
    No question about it. I am just saying that I think the question for the offense, as alluded to with the red zone comments, will be centric around Arnaud's development as a play-maker and the OL. I think you're right that big, physical WR will help...it'll also help if they can develop a play-maker on the outside, which I don't know ISU personnel well enough to know who that could be.
    Yes, all of those factors would/will improve redzone efficiency, the Oline & QB more prominently than WR. I guess I incorrectly interpreted the semantics of "it simply comes down to who has the better OL and how fast can the offense make the play to move the ball or score the TD while covered" to be that WR's were almost irrelevant.



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    Re: 2009 Offense

    Thanks for the comments guys. Sed missing is mostly an oversight on my part...you live you learn. I don't think any of the positions are locked up right now on the OL except Stephens at one of the guard spots. Regarding scoring in the red zone that mostly comes down to being able to run the ball when everyone knows what's coming. Either that or clever play calling, and we all know how non-existant that has been.




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    Re: 2009 Offense

    nice job



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    Re: 2009 Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    Yes, all of those factors would/will improve redzone efficiency, the Oline & QB more prominently than WR. I guess I incorrectly interpreted the semantics of "it simply comes down to who has the better OL and how fast can the offense make the play to move the ball or score the TD while covered" to be that WR's were almost irrelevant.
    Well, in a sense they are almost irrelevant...if you can't control the line or if Arnaud doesn't mature his red zone game, then I don't think it would matter a whole lot.



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    Quote Originally Posted by egami View Post
    Well, in a sense they are almost irrelevant...if you can't control the line or if Arnaud doesn't mature his red zone game, then I don't think it would matter a whole lot.
    Big difference between not controlling the line, and "better OL play in the red zone" ...So yes, nothing else matters if the Oline regresses and gets whipped every play. Improvement by AA in the redzone will help, but his performance last year was not so anemic that without maturation the play of WR will be irrelevant.



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