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    Misused Terminology

    Okay, this is something that has bothered me for a long time, and I just read another article that said it, and I'm wondering if people here feel the same way.

    The word in question is: Courage.

    I absolutely hate it when sports writers use the term courage to describe athletes. It takes courage to fight fires. It takes courage to go to Iraq or Afghanistan. It takes courage to put your life in danger every day for a country and the freedoms it provides. It takes courage to strap yourself to the front of a rocket and get blasted to the moon. (Okay, so maybe that last one is really more stupidity than courage)

    Courage is not: diving for a fly ball, crashing into a wall to make a catch, running a route over the middle, driving the lane, shooting a clutch three pointer, making a tough shot in tennis, or really anything in sports. These guys are paid millions of dollars to do what they do. I hate it when some broadcaster talks about how much courage it takes for a RB to run through an offensive line.

    Is anyone else with me on this?


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    Re: Misused Terminology

    I dunno, man.....pads or not, and no matter what I'm getting paid....it'd be pretty courageous to go across the middle on some of those pro linebackers.



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    Re: Misused Terminology

    Quote Originally Posted by sodakjoe View Post
    Okay, this is something that has bothered me for a long time, and I just read another article that said it, and I'm wondering if people here feel the same way.

    The word in question is: Courage.

    I absolutely hate it when sports writers use the term courage to describe athletes. It takes courage to fight fires. It takes courage to go to Iraq or Afghanistan. It takes courage to put your life in danger every day for a country and the freedoms it provides. It takes courage to strap yourself to the front of a rocket and get blasted to the moon. (Okay, so maybe that last one is really more stupidity than courage)

    Courage is not: diving for a fly ball, crashing into a wall to make a catch, running a route over the middle, driving the lane, shooting a clutch three pointer, making a tough shot in tennis, or really anything in sports. These guys are paid millions of dollars to do what they do. I hate it when some broadcaster talks about how much courage it takes for a RB to run through an offensive line.

    Is anyone else with me on this?

    What does take courage is to show that picture of yourself in that avatar! :)

    And, I agree with you.



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    Re: Misused Terminology

    Quote Originally Posted by sodakjoe View Post
    Okay, this is something that has bothered me for a long time, and I just read another article that said it, and I'm wondering if people here feel the same way.

    The word in question is: Courage.

    I absolutely hate it when sports writers use the term courage to describe athletes. It takes courage to fight fires. It takes courage to go to Iraq or Afghanistan. It takes courage to put your life in danger every day for a country and the freedoms it provides. It takes courage to strap yourself to the front of a rocket and get blasted to the moon. (Okay, so maybe that last one is really more stupidity than courage)

    Courage is not: diving for a fly ball, crashing into a wall to make a catch, running a route over the middle, driving the lane, shooting a clutch three pointer, making a tough shot in tennis, or really anything in sports. These guys are paid millions of dollars to do what they do. I hate it when some broadcaster talks about how much courage it takes for a RB to run through an offensive line.

    Is anyone else with me on this?
    No.



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    Re: Misused Terminology

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002 View Post
    I dunno, man.....pads or not, and no matter what I'm getting paid....it'd be pretty courageous to go across the middle on some of those pro linebackers.
    I was thinking the exact same thing.

    "the quality of mind or spirit that enables a person to face difficulty, danger, pain, etc., without fear; bravery."

    I think some things in sports fall under this definition.


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    Re: Misused Terminology

    First, you shouldn't let these little things bother you, life is too short.

    The term courage has much to do with prospective. What seems courageous to some, isn't to others. I'm a firefighter, but have never really considered myself courageous. If it is too dangerous we simply don't go in. Most of the time we know our limits and we study fire behavior so that we don't get into bad situations. Heart attack is the #1 killer of firefighters in the line of duty and the few that die in fire can be likened to getting in a deadly car crash (which BTW is #2 killer of firefighters in the line of duty). You don't see it coming and usually up until the last moment the feel like you still have control.

    I don't like deep water, so for me, swimming across a lake is courageous- not firefighting.


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    Re: Misused Terminology

    Quote Originally Posted by Cymaster View Post
    I was thinking the exact same thing.

    "the quality of mind or spirit that enables a person to face difficulty, danger, pain, etc., without fear; bravery."

    I think some things in sports fall under this definition.
    I guess to me, courage means something more than that. I have no problem describing athletes as tough, gritty, strong, and things like that. To me, courage means facing adversity that involves some sort of real consequence, and being able to accept the outcome regardless of what happens. Like guys who work nuclear submarines understanding that they're basically putting themselves inside a bomb shell. I don't dispute that what athletes do is hard, I just have a hard time describing it as "courageous."


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    Re: Misused Terminology

    Quote Originally Posted by sodakjoe View Post
    I guess to me, courage means something more than that. I have no problem describing athletes as tough, gritty, strong, and things like that. To me, courage means facing adversity that involves some sort of real consequence, and being able to accept the outcome regardless of what happens. Like guys who work nuclear submarines understanding that they're basically putting themselves inside a bomb shell. I don't dispute that what athletes do is hard, I just have a hard time describing it as "courageous."
    Then I guess you shouldn't become a sports writer


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    Re: Misused Terminology

    VIN Number = redundant.



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    Re: Misused Terminology

    Quote Originally Posted by sodakjoe View Post
    I guess to me, courage means something more than that. I have no problem describing athletes as tough, gritty, strong, and things like that. To me, courage means facing adversity that involves some sort of real consequence, and being able to accept the outcome regardless of what happens. Like guys who work nuclear submarines understanding that they're basically putting themselves inside a bomb shell. I don't dispute that what athletes do is hard, I just have a hard time describing it as "courageous."
    Things in sports can have very real consequences also.


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    Let's not go down this path......



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    Courage!




    Shucks, folks, I'm speechless.


    I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all.

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    Re: Misused Terminology

    Quote Originally Posted by sodakjoe View Post
    I guess to me, courage means something more than that. I have no problem describing athletes as tough, gritty, strong, and things like that. To me, courage means facing adversity that involves some sort of real consequence, and being able to accept the outcome regardless of what happens. Like guys who work nuclear submarines understanding that they're basically putting themselves inside a bomb shell. I don't dispute that what athletes do is hard, I just have a hard time describing it as "courageous."
    different degrees of courage, but id still call both courageous.



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    data = plural
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    Re: Misused Terminology

    Quote Originally Posted by jaretac View Post
    First, you shouldn't let these little things bother you, life is too short.

    The term courage has much to do with prospective. What seems courageous to some, isn't to others. I'm a firefighter, but have never really considered myself courageous. If it is too dangerous we simply don't go in. Most of the time we know our limits and we study fire behavior so that we don't get into bad situations. Heart attack is the #1 killer of firefighters in the line of duty and the few that die in fire can be likened to getting in a deadly car crash (which BTW is #2 killer of firefighters in the line of duty). You don't see it coming and usually up until the last moment the feel like you still have control.

    I don't like deep water, so for me, swimming across a lake is courageous- not firefighting.
    perspective/prospective



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