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    Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    Who knows how accurate this really is but this is the potential list of the players who tested positive for PEDís in 2003. Sadly there are a lot of guys who are current or former Cubs on that list, the ones in bold were on the Cubs in í03 everyone else was a Cub at some point in their career.

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    1.Nomar Garciaparra
    12.Jerry Hairston
    14.Alfonso Soriano
    29.Milton Bradley
    59.Derrek Lee
    70.Jeromy Burnitz
    71.Moises Alou
    72.Sammy Sosa
    73.Corey Patterson
    74.Carlos Zambrano
    75.Mark Prior
    76.Kerry Wood
    77.Matt Clement
    78.Antonio Alfonseca

    79.Juan Cruz
    80.Aramis Ramirez
    100.Luis Gonzalez
    103.Gary Matthews


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    Re: Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    I'm not putting any stock into that "list". Not enough little names and way too many huge names. Plus, I didn't know there are two Jeromy Burnitz in the league.



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    Re: Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    Where did this list come from?

    Jeromy Burnitz? That surprises me cause I remember when he was on the Mets (hitting .215) and everyone said he was the cleanest man in baseball, since he wouldn't even use creatine, protein or any other supplements. I always thougth he must have hated everybody juicing. Surprised to see his name on the list.



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    Re: Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    This came up during Sox/Cubs and we doubted its validity due to a real lack of marginal players - guys more likely to be using the stuff to prolong careers.



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    Re: Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    Not really caring or believing that list.



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    Re: Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    This list is crap. There is no way not one cardinal shows up on this list after the McGuire years.



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    Re: Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    I hope the actual list does come out, but as some other people have pointed out, the superstar/average joe ratio on this list seems suspect. Nothing would surprise me at this point though.



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    Re: Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    Juan Cruz? Seriously?



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    Re: Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    None of those names would surprise me but, there's ten guys from the '03 Cubs out of 103 positives. I have a hard time believing that a tenth of the list would come from one team if steroids were really that widespread, but who knows.



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    Re: Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    ya i dont buy that list either, 10 cubs really??? but i would love to see the real list, and if Pujols is on that list I would prob shed many tears



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    Re: Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    Quote Originally Posted by RayShimley View Post
    I hope the actual list does come out, but as some other people have pointed out, the superstar/average joe ratio on this list seems suspect. Nothing would surprise me at this point though.
    So you hope something that players signed up to do as confidential gets completely blown out in the open?



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    Re: Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    List definitely seems suspect....


    Antonio Alfonseca...



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    Re: Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrossCyed View Post
    This came up during Sox/Cubs and we doubted its validity due to a real lack of marginal players - guys more likely to be using the stuff to prolong careers.
    Exactly. Where are the scrub players? Seems fishy.


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    Re: Possible 2003 PED Positive Tests?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZCyclone View Post
    So you hope something that players signed up to do as confidential gets completely blown out in the open?
    in a word yes. its not like the players union hasn't f'd this up allready



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