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    having guys go both ways

    in high school this is common, but in college it is close to non-existent. I don't think its a good idea to do this but I think there are some situations where you have to. For instance, what if your outside linebackers suck and have no one else to fill the position and you play against a lot of spread teams (in which the play of the OLB is important). Then lets say you have a stud fullback and a stud tight end and can handle playing 60 minutes on both O and D without getting tired. Do you play them as OLBs also?



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    Re: having guys go both ways

    Hmm, you may want to consider rewording your title as it could be badly misinterpreted.



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    Re: having guys go both ways

    Quote Originally Posted by AntiSnob View Post
    in high school this is common, but in college it is close to non-existent. I don't think its a good idea to do this but I think there are some situations where you have to. For instance, what if your outside linebackers suck and have no one else to fill the position and you play against a lot of spread teams (in which the play of the OLB is important). Then lets say you have a stud fullback and a stud tight end and can handle playing 60 minutes on both O and D without getting tired. Do you play them as OLBs also?
    Only if there's a bowl riding on the outcome..........and it's a rivalry game against Manson/NW Webster.


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    Re: having guys go both ways

    Leave it to an Iowa fan to talk about guys going both ways...


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    Re: having guys go both ways

    Imo, a successful, well-stocked program, even at the HS level, will largely avoid this. In HS the athletes are marginal enough that you can get by with it. In D1, specifically, guys are conditioned so well that you immediately put a guy at a disadvantage unless you're using him sparingly on the other side from his main position.

    I think it's also important for the mental aspect...in HS, the offenses and defenses aren't overly sophisticated. In college, that changes dramatically, and expecting a kid to go both ways with any consistency is a lot to ask. Many of them struggle with the playbook and on field recognition on one side of the ball.



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    Re: having guys go both ways

    Quote Originally Posted by egami View Post
    Imo, a successful, well-stocked program, even at the HS level, will largely avoid this. In HS the athletes are marginal enough that you can get by with it. In D1, specifically, guys are conditioned so well that you immediately put a guy at a disadvantage unless you're using him sparingly on the other side from his main position.

    I think it's also important for the mental aspect...in HS, the offenses and defenses aren't overly sophisticated. In college, that changes dramatically, and expecting a kid to go both ways with any consistency is a lot to ask. Many of them struggle with the playbook and on field recognition on one side of the ball.
    This, and the risk of injury/fatigue. I'd be surprised if there are any/many D1 athletes that can go "balls to the wall" for 60 minutes on both sides of the ball. Even the kid who's out of position from time to time will be faster and hit harder than your stud FB or TE that plays both ways, in the 3rd and 4th Quarters.


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    Re: having guys go both ways

    Quote Originally Posted by egami View Post
    Imo, a successful, well-stocked program, even at the HS level, will largely avoid this. In HS the athletes are marginal enough that you can get by with it. In D1, specifically, guys are conditioned so well that you immediately put a guy at a disadvantage unless you're using him sparingly on the other side from his main position.

    I think it's also important for the mental aspect...in HS, the offenses and defenses aren't overly sophisticated. In college, that changes dramatically, and expecting a kid to go both ways with any consistency is a lot to ask. Many of them struggle with the playbook and on field recognition on one side of the ball.
    Good post. BTW, there was a college football player (I believe it was Div. I)in the last 30 years who did play both offense and defense. Does anyone else remember him?

    And the title of this thread is funny.



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    Re: having guys go both ways

    Quote Originally Posted by cardinal&gold View Post
    Hmm, you may want to consider rewording your title as it could be badly misinterpreted.
    Agreed, worst thread title ever.

    ...and yes, the easy reply post to this would be, "I'm sure you couldn't wait to click on it though."



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    Re: having guys go both ways

    Quote Originally Posted by egami View Post
    Imo, a successful, well-stocked program, even at the HS level, will largely avoid this. In HS the athletes are marginal enough that you can get by with it. In D1, specifically, guys are conditioned so well that you immediately put a guy at a disadvantage unless you're using him sparingly on the other side from his main position.

    I think it's also important for the mental aspect...in HS, the offenses and defenses aren't overly sophisticated. In college, that changes dramatically, and expecting a kid to go both ways with any consistency is a lot to ask. Many of them struggle with the playbook and on field recognition on one side of the ball.
    Quote Originally Posted by CycoCyclone View Post
    This, and the risk of injury/fatigue. I'd be surprised if there are any/many D1 athletes that can go "balls to the wall" for 60 minutes on both sides of the ball. Even the kid who's out of position from time to time will be faster and hit harder than your stud FB or TE that plays both ways, in the 3rd and 4th Quarters.
    The only person who I think had the phyiscal stature to play both offense and defense was Troy Davis. That kid could deliver a great block and he never seemed to get tired.

    Also, I will answer my own question. Gordie Lockbaum played both offense and defense -- although it was on a Div. I-AA team.



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    Re: having guys go both ways

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrocks View Post
    The only person who I think had the phyiscal stature to play both offense and defense was Troy Davis. That kid could deliver a great block and he never seemed to get tired.

    Also, I will answer my own question. Gordie Lockbaum played both offense and defense -- although it was on a Div. I-AA team.
    As did Chris Gamble at OSU.



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    Re: having guys go both ways

    The only time I could see this happening is for special packages--could utilize special talents and create mismatches. See Mike Vrabel & Junior Seau in NE.



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    Re: having guys go both ways

    Was it Chris Gamble at Ohio St. that played WR & CB just a couple years ago?

    Also, did Troy Brown play both ways for the Patriots.



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    Re: having guys go both ways

    Quote Originally Posted by cyismydog View Post
    As did Chris Gamble at OSU.
    Beat me to it.



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    Re: having guys go both ways

    Quote Originally Posted by cyismydog View Post
    As did Chris Gamble at OSU.
    I absolutely forgot about him. Geesh. An all-Big 10 player playing both offense and defense. That is truly remarkable. Great job.



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    Re: having guys go both ways

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrocks View Post
    The only person who I think had the phyiscal stature to play both offense and defense was Troy Davis. That kid could deliver a great block and he never seemed to get tired.
    Um, if Troy Davis did, then lots of athletes did.

    Also, I will answer my own question. Gordie Lockbaum played both offense and defense -- although it was on a Div. I-AA team.
    I was thinking of Chris Gamble...personally.



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