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    Tampa 2 Defense

    For anybody who's interested to learn about what type of defense we'll be running this year, I did a little research on the Tampa 2 out of curiosity.

    It's a defense consisting of 4 linemen, 3 linebackers, 2 corners and 2 safeties. It's a variation of the cover 2, and players are assigned to a specific zone of the field. It's not as complex as other defenses, and in a world of Goodfellas references, it'd be a Tommy DeVito (highly aggressive, instinctive, but not the brightest). It's known for the speed and gang tackling necessary to use it.

    Here's a picture:


    I see our defensive starting lineup as being:
    DE's-Rashawn Parker, Kurtis Taylor
    DT's-Bryce Braaksma, Ahtyba Rubin
    OLB's-Ace Bowen, Fred Garrin (Carper as well)
    MLB-Kris Means (alarming lack of depth at MLB)
    DB's-Chris Singleton, Drenard Williams
    FS-Jason Harris
    SS-Jon Banks

    I believe we have a pretty speedy team fully capable of covering gaps for this zone type defense, but for how long? The only proven lineman to apply pressure to the qb is Rashawn Parker. I guess time will tell



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    Re: Tampa 2 Defense

    I love that defense, if we can get the right players in. To run tampa 2 well you need both speed and hard hitting. One of the big things it counts on is hitting hard and forcing turnovers. You also have to have really fast linebackers in this schema, or you will get lit up by run plays to either side. But if GC can find the speed, and coach the attitude, this could work at ISU.


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    Re: Tampa 2 Defense

    Thanks Michael for the research!



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    Great picture. I had heard but cant confirm that possibly J. Harris might be moving back to RB. I cant see this, but who knows. Also where is Jon Banks. He wasn't a senior last year right? I see him getting into the mix.


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    Re: Tampa 2 Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by guitarchitect7 View Post
    Great picture. I had heard but cant confirm that possibly J. Harris might be moving back to RB. I cant see this, but who knows. Also where is Jon Banks. He wasn't a senior last year right? I see him getting into the mix.
    I don't know about moving J. Harris to RB...i mean, he's already been working for a year in the secondary and Chizik's got Bass, Bell, and Greer coming in at the RB position as well as Josh Johnson and Jason Scales there too...i mean theres a lot of options there, so why take harris out of a place where we honestly need much more help. I am not gonna make any guesses on the starters until the spring game, cuz there are a lot of positions where ppl are gonna come in an challenge, jucos and freshman. Maybe we will see Bibbs in the secondary? Jerrod Black at DT? we will just have to see...

    great info on the tampa 2, i already learned about it the same way you did, but great analysis.



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    Re: Tampa 2 Defense

    That is the base for the cover two. The great thing about it is you can do lots of stunts and games and different blitzes out of the same look. So its hard for them to tell where the pressure will come from and who may be dropping into coverage. If you want to see the Tampa Two in action, watch the superbowl as both teams run it. The thing Chicago does better than anybody, is stripping the ball. You will probably see sometime in the game when a reciever catches the ball a defender will grab him and then a second defender will try to tear the ball loose. I hope this is something Chizik will preach because it seems to be so effective. Reminds me of what Moser used to do.



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    ISU has been pretty much running this type of defense in the past. Everyone speaks as if this is some new revelation or something. Look at what % of college and NFL teams that run this or a variation of it and you will see it is pretty common. Everyone is trying to copy what has been successful.

    I think the difference will be that ISU will be more aggressive. I was under the assumption this type of defense allows the corners to be more aggressive on defense. From the interview I heard on cyclones.com I am really looking forward to how Chizik is going to be running the show. I think he is going to play to win.



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    Re: Tampa 2 Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by twojman View Post
    ISU has been pretty much running this type of defense in the past. Everyone speaks as if this is some new revelation or something. Look at what % of college and NFL teams that run this or a variation of it and you will see it is pretty common. Everyone is trying to copy what has been successful.

    I think the difference will be that ISU will be more aggressive. I was under the assumption this type of defense allows the corners to be more aggressive on defense. From the interview I heard on cyclones.com I am really looking forward to how Chizik is going to be running the show. I think he is going to play to win.
    I agree with you 100%. Most colleges run this defense, I just think that Chizik is just going to get way more agressive. The thing about it that is nice, as aforementioned, is you can run a lot of blitzes out of it that change the whole look of the defense. You can blitz a corner and drop a DE (Parker) back in coverage. Or you can blitz a safety like Texas does with Michael Griffin and then drop the corner back to fill his spot and then have a DE fill the corners spot. It's all about owning positions on the field and making the cornerback throw to a spot that he "thinks" is open.



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    Re: Tampa 2 Defense

    Good stuff Michael, I love having these kinds of discussions. Nice Corleone Pic too.

    The only thing I have to say regarding your potential defensive lineup next year is that with the number of juco's we're bringing in I don't think anybody's job is safe and i doubt we see that as our starting lineup.




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    Re: Tampa 2 Defense

    I really think we would benefit from Parker moving to linebacker. Size and speed, he would fit better there.




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    Re: Tampa 2 Defense

    I always thought that Skladany was an excellent coach and that his defenses ususally kept us in the game and gave us a chance to win. As stated above, we have run most if not all of the alignment packages that we will see from bolt & Chizik. I believe that the improvement from the new staff will come in the form of coachs' expectations and players' attitudes.

    The old staff hung their hat too often on getting turnovers. If they didn't happen, it was too much bending if not breaking. The new staff is going to put a premium on tackling and agressive play. You simply won't play if you can't tackle - regardless of how fast you are or how well you can cover. The comment from one of the new assistants passed on from a coaching clinic is that the term "cover corner" no longer exists at ISU. They are committed to stopping the run so run support comes first.

    The new staff will rely more on pressuring the QB and less on maximum coverage to stop the passing game. There will be more variations in coverage to keep the QB guessing. One of the coaches said that they work hard to hide if they are in a cover 2 or cover 4 scheme as well as were the pressure is coming from. If you can stop the run and make the QB uncomfortable, you have a good chance to win. You take some risks with an attacking style defense, but you usually end up with more rewards.



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    Re: Tampa 2 Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    I always thought that Skladany was an excellent coach...

    The new staff will rely more on pressuring the QB and less on maximum coverage to stop the passing game. There will be more variations in coverage to keep the QB guessing.
    exactly, skaldany was not aggresive enough. he sat back and let the offense come to him. i loved watching the d blitz 2 or 3 consecutive plays and force a 3 and out. then the next series it was like skladany forgot the success he just had being aggresive. the tampa 2 will be similar on paper, as the above graphic displays, but the we run different blitzes and coverages is what is going to make it successful this time around.



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    Re: Tampa 2 Defense

    How much does this system rely on the Middle LB, do we want speed, and in doing so, how much size will we give up? I am just curious?



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    Re: Tampa 2 Defense

    Quote Originally Posted by isucyclone4 View Post
    I don't know about moving J. Harris to RB...i mean, he's already been working for a year in the secondary and Chizik's got Bass, Bell, and Greer coming in at the RB position as well as Josh Johnson and Jason Scales there too...i mean theres a lot of options there, so why take harris out of a place where we honestly need much more help. I am not gonna make any guesses on the starters until the spring game, cuz there are a lot of positions where ppl are gonna come in an challenge, jucos and freshman. Maybe we will see Bibbs in the secondary? Jerrod Black at DT? we will just have to see...

    great info on the tampa 2, i already learned about it the same way you did, but great analysis.

    I completely agree on this. There are a lot of options at RB right now.


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    Re: Tampa 2 Defense

    Did I miss soemthing? Is James Smith not on the team anymore? Everybody as so excited about him last year but then he broke his ankle. Whats up?


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