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    Ford

    Of the Big 3, they seem to be in the best shape financially. They have the same underlying problems as GM and Chrysler however.

    Will they be able to survive long term? Will they get some Union and Dealership consessions based on what the "other guys" are going through now?



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    Re: Ford

    Pretty happy about all the stock I bought in Ford back in November...



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    Re: Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    Pretty happy about all the stock I bought in Ford back in November...
    Yea - March 10th for me...


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    Re: Ford

    Ford is in a lot better shape. They are poised to capture a lot of the business lost by the other Domestic car companies and I know I will only buy Ford from now on.



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    Re: Ford

    Agree about Ford benefitting in the long run from GM and Chrysler's troubles. I leased my first foreign car a year ago and will go back to a domestic auto maker on my next lease, and I will strongly lean toward Ford (plus I bought in at a buck fifty). I think their truck business will especially benefit from GM's troubles.



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    Always been a Ford man here.



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    Re: Ford

    Rural America looks destined to become Ford Country. They are only losing a half billion a month on low sales, but people will start to give them more looks.


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    Re: Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by ButlerClone View Post
    Ford is in a lot better shape. They are poised to capture a lot of the business lost by the other Domestic car companies and I know I will only buy Ford from now on.

    Exactly. Let GM and Chrysler fail, and Ford will reap the rewards. If I ever buy an American car (that is a really big IF), I will only look at ford.


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    Re: Ford

    Ford has done the best job of the Big 3 in terms of integrating their global operations, IMO.

    I don't know enough to tell you how they managed their union morass better than the other two, but Ford was also in a lot bigger trouble than the other two well before the carpocalypse hit. They had already taken their lumps and were on the rebound, while GM and Chrysler had been hiding behind strong SUV and truck sales that hid the fundamental problems with their companies.


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    Re: Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by brianhos View Post
    Exactly. Let GM and Chrysler fail, and Ford will reap the rewards. If I ever buy an American car (that is a really big IF), I will only look at ford.
    Agree 100%.

    If I was a Ford shareholder, employee, director, or executive I would be pretty upset that Chysler and GM weren't allowed to fully fail.

    A dead GM and Chrysler = a healthier Ford. But unfortunately supply and demand principles are no longer allowed to operate in our economy.


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    Re: Ford

    I think there was fear that if GM and Chrysler hadn't got assistance and went bankrupt last fall, it would have created a tidal wave of bankruptcies in auto suppliers, dealerships, and a dozen other industries that depended on the Big 3, and the economy could not have withstood it with so many big financial institutions also on life support last fall. Plus I don't think Bush wanted GM to go bankrupt on his watch.



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    Ford will get most and probably all of the union concessions that GM and Chrysler get. Ford's lenders have already come to the party. Ford has chipped away at the salaried and salaried retirees compensation and benefits. This means their cost structure is lining up. With the new product coming on stream, they should be competitive if the prices they have to pay their suppliers don't rise too much. This is where GM and, to a lesser extent, Chrysler come in. If GM and Chrysler fold, Ford's vendors would have to raise their prices to Ford causing significant problems. The best scenario is that GM and Chrysler are weakened and lose market share slowly so that Ford can ramp up production in an affordable manner. Then Ford could become the dominant car company again.

    Regarding product, did you guys see that a bunch of test drivers drove a Ford Fusion Hybrid (off the lot not a tweaked car) around Washington DC and got 81 miles per gallon? You probably wouldn't drive as slow as they did but that blew away all mpg records for production vehicles. I think Ford is claiming 41 mpg in normal driving. The new Taurus is loaded with technology, has more horsepower and gets better gas mileage.

    I think Ford has their act together and if we don't get another catastrophy on top of what we have already, they should really pick up.


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    Re: Ford

    Never been a Ford man and don't plan to start unless they do some major revamping to their vehicles. Right now it would be hard to get me away from Honda to be straight up honest.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonesrule91 View Post
    Never been a Ford man and don't plan to start unless they do some major revamping to their vehicles. Right now it would be hard to get me away from Honda to be straight up honest.
    Try one. Take a test drive. Honda isn't the only car company to build fine vehicles.


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    Re: Ford

    Did you mean the Ford Fusion Hybrid?

    That car has been given as positive a review as I've ever seen from Moter Trend. They said it was the best Hybrid on the market, giving it even a higher rating then a $40,000 + Lexus Hybrid. Sounds like they were very impressed with the Engineering.

    Never thought I would turn into a Ford person, but looks like I'm headed that way.



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