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    Secret to the curveball

    Interesting illusion but if if you've ever tried to hit a curve ball, you know it isn't an illusion.

    The Secret of the Curve Ball Picked World's Best Illusion - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News - FOXNews.com



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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    My favorite thing to teach as a baseball coach is the curveball.



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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    I'm gonna guess that scientist has never played baseball.


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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    Isn't that the whole point? That it appears to curve when it actually doesn't. In other words it is an illusion.



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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    Ever try to hit a curveball...it's not an illusion...that's my point.



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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    I can tell you that my curveball was no illusion, hitters seem to see it pretty well . . .

    Took me forever to get it to where it was half way respectable, I had a half way decent knuckle curve in high school, it wasn't until after high school that I could get the hang of a normal curveball.



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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    I just skimmed the article pretty quickly but from what I gathered the scientist was saying the curveball does in fact curve but the sharpness of the curve is the illusion. He wasn't saying it doesn't curve just that it's more gradual than what it looks like.



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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    Quote Originally Posted by price26 View Post
    I can tell you that my curveball was no illusion, hitters seem to see it pretty well . . .

    Took me forever to get it to where it was half way respectable, I had a half way decent knuckle curve in high school, it wasn't until after high school that I could get the hang of a normal curveball.
    A lot of high school kids just aren't patient/persistent enough to have a good one, it takes a lot of work.



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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    Quote Originally Posted by Clone5 View Post
    A lot of high school kids just aren't patient/persistent enough to have a good one, it takes a lot of work.
    I just didn't have the focus to consistently get it my release point out in front of my body and snap it off, I threw a lot of hangers when I tried to get it done, never tried it in a game.

    Sometimes though, my knuckle curve would turn into an eephus, that was pretty fun when you can run it up to about 65-70, then throw this complete junk that just baffles kids.



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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    Quote Originally Posted by Wx4Cy View Post
    Interesting illusion but if if you've ever tried to hit a curve ball, you know it isn't an illusion.

    The Secret of the Curve Ball Picked World's Best Illusion - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News - FOXNews.com
    Yeah no kidding. If you watch a Kerry Wood or Barry Zito (in his prime) Curve, you see that it has all kinds of movement.

    Perhaps what this scientist is saying that it's possible to throw a straight ball and have it look like a curve ball. I don't think he's saying that all curve balls are actually straight....



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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBake View Post
    I'm gonna guess that scientist has never played baseball.
    geeks don't play sports.



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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    Quote Originally Posted by Wx4Cy View Post
    Ever try to hit a curveball...it's not an illusion...that's my point.
    You know damn well I could never hit a curveball.



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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    Quote Originally Posted by Wx4Cy View Post
    Ever try to hit a curveball...it's not an illusion...that's my point.
    I'm with you 100% about the curve being real. The movement closer to the plate is more pronounced as the forward velocity slows allowing gravity and spin induced air currents to impact the flight of the ball.

    Now if one wants to talk about an illusion, it would be the misnamed rise ball in fast pitch softball. The spin on a rise ball simply can't overcome the force of gravity to make a ball rise. It can only create a slight resistance to gravity which causes the ball to drop at a somewhat slower rate. The eye gets fooled by the slower rate of drop as well as what is often an upward angle of release. A ball released on a true horizontal plane will always be dropping regardless of how much "rise" spin is applied.



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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    Quote Originally Posted by PolkCityClone View Post
    geeks don't play sports.
    False. As a 3-sport starting athlete in HS and aerospace engineer student, I disagree.

    As for the curveball, it always seemed more of a break than a curve when I was batting. Learning how to hit them seemed a lot easier than all of the work it took to learn how to throw them; pick it up, sit on it, and take it to opposite field.



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    Re: Secret to the curveball

    I think the point of the illustration is not that the curve ball does not "curve." Instead, it demonstrates that the way the hitter views the pitch causes it to appear to "break" more dramatically than the actual path of the pitch.



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