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    Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    Pretty blunt and to the point

    If you sasy yes...I would like to know what reason behind it



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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    I have a feeling that some players will be inducted but under a new "era" like what they refer to when they mention the "dead ball" era. So we will see the likes of Barry Bonds in the hall with a "*" denoting he was playing during the "steroid" era or whatever you decide to call it. The big problem is that we will never know exactly who is/was and is not/was not juicing.

    I don't think its right but thats what I think will happen.



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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    If Pete Rose doesn't get in for betting, then these cheating ******** shouldn't.


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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    Geronimusclone.....well put



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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    I think i'm right on with cycloneace. I see it as much as an MLB (management, media, fans, union, etc) issue as an individual player issue. No one realized there was a problem, or they chose to ignore it. Almost every interested party is in one of these two catagories. The problem is that we won't know who all was and wasn't. We will only know those whom the media decides to pursue or whom they can get dirt on. Now, if there's is hard undeniable evidence, that is something else entirely....



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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    Quote Originally Posted by GeronimusClone View Post
    If Pete Rose doesn't get in for betting, then these cheating ******** shouldn't.
    That pretty much sums it up for me. And I am not a fan of Pete Rose.



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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    And then we have guys like Bert Blyleven who aren't in for whatever ungodly reason. It's ****ed up.


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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    Quote Originally Posted by GeronimusClone View Post
    If Pete Rose doesn't get in for betting, then these cheating ******** shouldn't.
    only problem is, is that is accompanied by evidence and a confession. I personally think Rose should be in anyways



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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    Where do you stop is the problem. I know this has been going on for at least 20+ years. The sad thing is, Bonds, Manny and A-Rod would have made the hall without doing the junk. If Ken Griffey Jr. ever admits to using roids, I'm done with baseball forever.


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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestZest View Post
    only problem is, is that is accompanied by evidence and a confession. I personally think Rose should be in anyways
    There's evidence and confessions.


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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    Quote Originally Posted by GeronimusClone View Post
    There's evidence and confessions.
    ? Maybe I didn't convey it well. That was a messy sentence - I should rephrase.

    Pete rose is different than suspected steroids users because his case involves evidence and a confession.



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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestZest View Post
    ? Maybe I didn't convey it well. That was a messy sentence - I should rephrase.

    Pete rose is different than suspected steroids users because his case involves evidence and a confession.
    There's evidence of steroid use and confessions - sequestered (right word?) statements. The evidence is just as prevelant as the Rose evidence before his confession two decades later.


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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    What they did was NOT against the rules of baseball. Might have been illegal, sure, but so is speeding.

    What Pete Rose did was clearly against the rules of baseball, even though it may have been entirely legal.

    Big difference.

    I dislike MLB in general for a whole lot of things, and the player's union in particular, but these guys were just playing within the rules that had been established. Baseball benefited from it.

    You might as well ban every player who ever used amphetamines as well (and you know they used them back in the day).

    You have no idea who was or wasn't on the stuff either, really, and so there's no way you can single out just a few of these guys.

    You put a big asterisk next to the whole era from the 80s through about 2 years ago, and call it the "steroid era" and be done with it.


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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    There isn't a "hell no" option, so I just went with no.



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    Re: Do steriod suspects belong in the Hall of fame

    I think they should all be in the Hall of Fame (well not McGwire because he doesn't have a HoF resume). At the time, there was no rule against these substances. Sure, it was illegal but the punishment for posessing and using these drugs is about the same as a public intox (distributing is another issue). If a player has gotten caught since the testing, then they served their punishment via suspension and their stats will be reflected by it.
    Personally, I think there should be a plaque, describing the era as a time when players began to use science to accelerate their careers and let them in, educate the fans of the future of what that era was like.




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