Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 43
  1. #1
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 95,928, Level: 96
    Level completed: 44%, Points required for next Level: 1,122
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    4,190
    Points
    95,928
    Level
    96
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 14
    Given: 0

    4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    One ISU recruit was quoted as being told by Coach Chizik that he plans to run a wide open offense with 4 and 5 wideout sets. A tough in your face defense with a wide open offense sounds like fun football to me. Quickest fix for an undermanned offensive line is to pass the ball a lot. I thought we should have opened it up the past two years with what we had, but no go. The new face of Iowa State Football....wide open. Will it work?



  2. #2
    Starter
    Points: 11,204, Level: 31
    Level completed: 94%, Points required for next Level: 46
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    clonez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Posts
    712
    Points
    11,204
    Level
    31
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    i would hope so, with the talent we have at the wideout positions and the talent at QB it SHOULD work, but it should have worked last year too so...



  3. #3
    Addict Achievements:
    SocialYour first GroupRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience Points
    CTAClone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Amerika
    Posts
    9,218
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    Are we still going to run the draw on third and long? That play worked all the time.

    Sarcasm


    "If you can't hear me, it's because I'm in parentheses."



  4. #4
    Starter
    Points: 11,204, Level: 31
    Level completed: 94%, Points required for next Level: 46
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    clonez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Posts
    712
    Points
    11,204
    Level
    31
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    well it worked against toledo a couple times so it should work all the time.....right........right?!?!?!



  5. #5
    Speechless
    Points: 336,980, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 30.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    ISUFan22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Grimes, IA
    Posts
    31,904
    Points
    336,980
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 176
    Given: 208

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    Sadly, we can't run one of our best plays from '04 this season.

    Flynn on the keeper. Golly I've missed that.

    Whatever offense that puts up W's is fine with me though. I don't care if it's 100% run and we don't throw a single pass or vice versa. Just win baby.



  6. #6
    POOTMFS
    Points: 89,451, Level: 93
    Level completed: 6%, Points required for next Level: 1,799
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    7,785
    Points
    89,451
    Level
    93
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    Sadly, we can't run one of our best plays from '04 this season.

    Flynn on the keeper. Golly I've missed that.

    Whatever offense that puts up W's is fine with me though. I don't care if it's 100% run and we don't throw a single pass or vice versa. Just win baby.
    Spoken by a true Raider fan.



  7. #7
    Speechless
    Points: 452,612, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 7.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience PointsOverdrive
    brianhos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Trenchtown
    Posts
    39,720
    Points
    452,612
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 266
    Given: 37

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    Quote Originally Posted by ketelmeister View Post
    One ISU recruit was quoted as being told by Coach Chizik that he plans to run a wide open offense with 4 and 5 wideout sets. A tough in your face defense with a wide open offense sounds like fun football to me. Quickest fix for an undermanned offensive line is to pass the ball a lot. I thought we should have opened it up the past two years with what we had, but no go. The new face of Iowa State Football....wide open. Will it work?
    Gonna be fun to watch that sorta offense in november with a 30mph wind. In the short run, it might work, but in the long run, with the weather we have, we need to be able to pound the ball. But a run and gun offense sounds fun to watch.


    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775

  8. #8
    Pro
    Points: 23,909, Level: 47
    Level completed: 36%, Points required for next Level: 641
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    psycln11's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Ankeny
    Posts
    2,603
    Points
    23,909
    Level
    47
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 3
    Given: 0

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    depends on what routes the receivers are running. Brett didn't have time with the routes we ran last year as the receivers didn't get immediate separation.

    I would really like to see Blythe used in motion to catch the defense by surprise a few times, as they can't lock in on him easily.


    Some people wear Superman pajamas. Superman wears Chuck Norris pajamas.

  9. #9
    Rookie Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Ames, Iowa
    Posts
    442
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    had we run a wideopen offense last year it might have worked, the problem was we lined up as one, but than moved are wideouts in for runs to give away what we were doing. If we can develop better blocking schemes and improve Meyer's ability to throw off of a three step drop, than the offense is made, and the defense is to worry about. We have a plethera of talent at wideout, we have Blythe and Hamilton, who are big guys who can go up and get the ball. Moses who will fill what Davis can do, and than Messiah who will run short routes and be a very good screen guy, I think, we need to learn how to run screens and should be able to in 4 or 5 wideout sets, if we can teach receivers to block. Another thing we might see is Barkema lined up as a receiver in some instances, which would add a wrinkle, do some underneath routes with him coming under a post route for Blythe. I think with our personal right now, this offense sounds perfect, now we only have to figure out who the hell can block and who the hell can run.


    Big Shawn, Super Clone!

  10. #10
    Pro
    Points: 23,145, Level: 46
    Level completed: 60%, Points required for next Level: 405
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    2,458
    Points
    23,145
    Level
    46
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    Quote Originally Posted by CTAClone View Post
    Are we still going to run the draw on third and long? That play worked all the time.
    In my four years at Jack Trice... I never saw a draw on third and long. Or wait, maybe it was the other way around. I always saw it!

    I'll never forget my freshman year ('01) and at my first game my upperclass friends would properly predict the 'draw'. That never changed.

    And apologies to the board if this topic has been beaten to death in the past, which I suspect it has, but still fairly new to CF.



  11. #11
    Walk On Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points
    bferin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    223
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    Quote Originally Posted by CTAClone View Post
    Are we still going to run the draw on third and long? That play worked all the time.

    Sarcasm
    Hey what could be a better play call than a QB draw on 3rd and 21???? Didn't you hear the comparisons between Meyer and Vick????? Hopefully Chizik can see why it was usually 2-and-out for us last year. Third down was just to get the defense a little more rest.



  12. #12
    Speechless
    Points: 336,980, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 30.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    ISUFan22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Grimes, IA
    Posts
    31,904
    Points
    336,980
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 176
    Given: 208

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    So if we did go 4-5 wide...list your personnel at WR...

    Blythe
    Sumral
    Hamilton
    Moses
    Messiah

    Jones could see some minutes too.

    I think Hamilton has the body and potential to be the #2 guy and be similar to Jon Davis - yet better. I expected to see some of that last year and didn't - leaving me disappointed. I'm hoping the new staff will find a way to get production out of him. At 6'3", 217 pounds and certainly not slow - this is a kid we really should want to get the ball to.



  13. #13
    Speechless
    Points: 398,619, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 67.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdriveVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Wesley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Omaha
    Posts
    58,793
    Points
    398,619
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 551
    Given: 349

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    Here comes Texas tech ball.


    Let my Fred's Posse Ride: Georges, Naz, Hogue, Bryce, Nader, Monte, Matt, and McKay.

  14. #14
    Speechless
    Points: 253,941, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    BryceC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    16,664
    Points
    253,941
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 133
    Given: 0

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    I don't know if we need to go that wide, but we need to get some receivers out there and run some three step drops for Meyer. I was dying for them to do that last year when he would do a five step drop and there would pretty much be a guy right on top of him.




  15. #15
    Speechless
    Points: 118,970, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 14.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    ISUAlum2002's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Urbandale
    Posts
    15,574
    Points
    118,970
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 83
    Given: 93

    Re: 4-5 wideouts for ISU under Chizik...

    Quote Originally Posted by bferin View Post
    Hey what could be a better play call than a QB draw on 3rd and 21???? Didn't you hear the comparisons between Meyer and Vick????? Hopefully Chizik can see why it was usually 2-and-out for us last year. Third down was just to get the defense a little more rest.
    Bret did convert that 3rd and 21 at A&M in 2005. That was damn near the only time it actually worked. Probably the worst thing that could have happened though, as we saw that play time and time again after that.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: FOX
  • Iowa State vs. Baylor
  • September 27, 2014
  • 07:20 PM