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    How do we keep our coaches ??

    How do we keep our current coaches?We all buy season tickets for football,finish Jack Trice renovations....and give JP 60,000 reasons(ticket holders) to raise the funds for ALL the Sports programs...like football or not we lost Cal to Joe Paterno and his 20 yrs of sold out Football Games...just 1 opinon



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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    Fill the football stadium, donate more.

    Pretty simple, but I gurantee you'll hear a million reasons why we can't do this.



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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    Cael said he didn't leave for money... unless he is flat out lying. I dont see Cael to be the liar type.



    Chizik chose Auburn over Iowa State. Not a tough football decision.


    Tim Floyd left us for a chance at the Chicago Bulls.


    All of those coaches seem to have left for good reasons. They all ended up making more money, but all those jobs have a lot more status than coaching at Iowa State (which a majority of the US has no idea what and where it is)

    I guess the gymnastics coach left due to lack of funds available to her program.


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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    While Cael didn't just leave for the money, at the end it was the deciding factor.

    When you combine a major payday with better facilities, better recruiting backyard, and better conference, it spells moving to Penn St.



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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    We have the lowest (or 2nd) lowest athletic budget in the Big 12 and one of the top 5 (guessing) lowest athletic budgets in all of BCS conferences. We are in a small population state with three large in state schools, surrounded by states with only one major division one program. (Mizzou, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Illinois to a smaller degree).

    If we had one major school (ISU/UNI/Iowa) and combined the fan support/money - we'd have a killer athletic program when you consider the way college sports dominate the state.

    It all comes down to money, you get what you pay for and ISU pays to be a bottom level program.


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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    Quote Originally Posted by isuno1fan View Post
    While Cael didn't just leave for the money, at the end it was the deciding factor.

    When you combine a major payday with better facilities, better recruiting backyard, and better conference, it spells moving to Penn St.
    I'm gonna love to see you backpedal when the numbers come out about the "major payday".



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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    We have the lowest (or 2nd) lowest athletic budget in the Big 12 and one of the top 5 (guessing) lowest athletic budgets in all of BCS conferences. We are in a small population state with three large in state schools, surrounded by states with only one major division one program. (Mizzou, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Illinois to a smaller degree).

    If we had one major school (ISU/UNI/Iowa) and combined the fan support/money - we'd have a killer athletic program when you consider the way college sports dominate the state.

    It all comes down to money, you get what you pay for and ISU pays to be a bottom level program.
    Finally finally a voice of reason...ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND LACK THEREOF ON ISU'S part....

    No money equals LOSING ...MONEY equals WINNING!!! ever hear of the univ of Texas???



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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    People forget that your school only needs to be good in two sports to matter.... men's hoops and football.... everything else goes on based on that.

    We have been last of all BCS schools in the past few years in those two sports. Last.



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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    Quote Originally Posted by clones_jer View Post
    I'm gonna love to see you backpedal when the numbers come out about the "major payday".
    I guarantee it is at least 25% more than he was making at ISU. Combined with the other factors, it is a no brainer.

    The big 12 will soon be an afterthought in wrestling. Cael wanted to work for a program that has a chance to succeed at the highest level in the best wrestling conference. He now has that opportunity.



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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    Bill Murray would lock 'em up and throw away the key. I'm ok with that.



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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    It isn't money, it's the coach. Johnny Orr and Dan McCarney had chances to leave and they stayed. Bill Fennelly could leave and he hasn't/won't. Money wasn't what kept them here.

    Most of the coaches who quit we expected to quit. Even the most loyal Chizik supporters never saw him as a coach who wanted to be here but someone who was using ISU as a stepping stone. Nobody thought 10 straight losses would make him a good candidate, but as soon as he went .500 in a year he was outta here. Tim Floyd? He hasn't stayed at any job, if it hadn't been the Bulls it would have been somewhere else.

    Cael is the one that raises red flags. Jeremy's statement is 100% spot on. And I agree with jer -- I think we will find that Cael was telling the truth that the money is nowhere near what people are speculating.


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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    Quote Originally Posted by isuno1fan View Post
    I guarantee it is at least 25% more than he was making at ISU. Combined with the other factors, it is a no brainer.

    The big 12 will soon be an afterthought in wrestling. Cael wanted to work for a program that has a chance to succeed at the highest level in the best wrestling conference. He now has that opportunity.
    Way to go out on a limb there - so you guarantee its $165k or greater?

    If its anything below $200k there is no excuse whatsoever he's still not our coach.



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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    I agree,

    Win Some F---ing Football Games.

    But, how do we do that? We need to pay the Ref's more. Look at the calls that went against us and cost us games. We need to get some Ref's in our corner.



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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    Quote Originally Posted by clones_jer View Post
    Way to go out on a limb there - so you guarantee its $165k or greater?

    If its anything below $200k there is no excuse whatsoever he's still not our coach.
    All coaches have demonstrated they are prostitutes --- they are just haggling over price. A 25% increase would make me really consider changing jobs and towns... Doubling would make it a no-brainer.



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    Re: How do we keep our coaches ??

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    We have the lowest (or 2nd) lowest athletic budget in the Big 12 and one of the top 5 (guessing) lowest athletic budgets in all of BCS conferences. We are in a small population state with three large in state schools, surrounded by states with only one major division one program. (Mizzou, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Illinois to a smaller degree).

    If we had one major school (ISU/UNI/Iowa) and combined the fan support/money - we'd have a killer athletic program when you consider the way college sports dominate the state.

    It all comes down to money, you get what you pay for and ISU pays to be a bottom level program.
    This is a good point, and I know it has been raised before in regard to football. But it does mean Iowa should be more educated.

    Let's pull out the old Northwestern cheer: "We don't care about the loss, ten years from now we'll be your boss!"



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