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    The story I saw today.

    Didn't seem to have a proper conclusion.
    Here are the first few lines:
    Cael Sanderson had an answer for why he was leaving Iowa State for Penn State.

    He just didn’t know if it was a good one.

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    And don't get caught up in rumors. The first time I believed Cael was leaving was when I saw the looks on the wrestler's faces.

    He made an allusion to the fact that he won't be making a lot more money. We'll find out what that means.

    Cael said Cody and Casey Cunninham will probably follow him to Penn State. As far as any athletes, he said it's up to the administrators.



    This what he said in response to whether he thought it'd be easier to win an NCAA Championship at Penn State:
    "I think they’ve won one national championship, and it was in the 50s I believe. I haven’t really checked my history, so I wouldn’t say that’s accurate."

    I'd post more, but I've got my own family to attend to.


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    Re: The story I saw today.

    Well, if he were leaving because of an issue with Pollard I'm sure that would have been a good reason. I can see where he wouldn't feel leaving for money was a good reason.



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    Re: The story I saw today.

    ďIt wasnít ever about a counter offer. I didnít ask for anything, and the decision wasnít based on what they were offering me, versus what Iowa State offers me,Ē Cael said. ďI told Jaime that I wasnít really, not really motivated by money. Iím motivated by opportunity and heís been very good for me. Very understanding, and itís hard to leave after youíve gotten as much support as you have.Ē

    To me, that throws out the Pollard issue. It wasn't about that. Sounds like he just thinks it will be easier on the east coast. What a chicken ****. I can't believe I just typed that.



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    Re: The story I saw today.

    There's also this angle:
    ISU is already a dynasty when it comes to wrestling. Penn State is not. It's really the ultimate opportunity for a coach to prove his mettle.

    He gets to walk into a program with all the support in the world, in a recruiting hotbed and build it up from scratch, and mold with his hands with his name on it. If he succeeds, he's Dan Gable. No matter what he did at ISU, he would always be under the shadow of the dynasty he was just a part of, not a founding father of.

    There's a lot of ego in that, but it's plausible, as driven and motivated as he is. It genuinely might not be about the money, and might well be about the chance to become the JoePa of wrestling at PSU.


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    Re: The story I saw today.

    But even if he won 10 national championships at Penn State - would he ever even make the front page of the school newspaper? Here he certainly would. Although I'm sure the DMRag would find a way to hide it behind everything but the Iowa arrest reports.


    A program isn't built on one player and it doesn't succeed because of one player, thus a program won't fail if it doesn't get that one player.

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    Re: The story I saw today.

    Quote Originally Posted by jumbopackage View Post
    There's also this angle:
    ISU is already a dynasty when it comes to wrestling. Penn State is not. It's really the ultimate opportunity for a coach to prove his mettle.

    He gets to walk into a program with all the support in the world, in a recruiting hotbed and build it up from scratch, and mold with his hands with his name on it. If he succeeds, he's Dan Gable. No matter what he did at ISU, he would always be under the shadow of the dynasty he was just a part of, not a founding father of.

    There's a lot of ego in that, but it's plausible, as driven and motivated as he is. It genuinely might not be about the money, and might well be about the chance to become the JoePa of wrestling at PSU.

    Good points.


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    Re: The story I saw today.

    Quote Originally Posted by jumbopackage View Post
    There's also this angle:
    ISU is already a dynasty when it comes to wrestling. Penn State is not. It's really the ultimate opportunity for a coach to prove his mettle.

    He gets to walk into a program with all the support in the world, in a recruiting hotbed and build it up from scratch, and mold with his hands with his name on it. If he succeeds, he's Dan Gable. No matter what he did at ISU, he would always be under the shadow of the dynasty he was just a part of, not a founding father of.

    There's a lot of ego in that, but it's plausible, as driven and motivated as he is. It genuinely might not be about the money, and might well be about the chance to become the JoePa of wrestling at PSU.
    You may be correct, but I believe $$$$$ still had an influence.



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    Re: The story I saw today.

    So we basically can figure that we don't know enough to make any judgments on what happened?

    Good enough for me. I think I'll go to bed. Night, all!


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    Re: The story I saw today.

    Cael is a traitor and a sell out. Sold out for the money. He's nothing to me and I hope he fails miserably.



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    Re: The story I saw today.

    Quote Originally Posted by jumbopackage View Post
    There's also this angle:
    ISU is already a dynasty when it comes to wrestling. Penn State is not. It's really the ultimate opportunity for a coach to prove his mettle.

    He gets to walk into a program with all the support in the world, in a recruiting hotbed and build it up from scratch, and mold with his hands with his name on it. If he succeeds, he's Dan Gable. No matter what he did at ISU, he would always be under the shadow of the dynasty he was just a part of, not a founding father of.

    There's a lot of ego in that, but it's plausible, as driven and motivated as he is. It genuinely might not be about the money, and might well be about the chance to become the JoePa of wrestling at PSU.
    don't kid yourself, we're no dynasty. We might have tradition and a fair number of titles but not a dynasty. If he would have had a career here this would VERY clearly have been HIS program. Like I said yesterday, I will remember him as an ISU legend, the greatest of all time, a great person, and a chicken**** coach...and this just confirms it. If it was about Pollard he would have said nothing about him, not that he had all the support he needed.



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    Re: The story I saw today.

    Its all about $$$. Cael has 2,500,000 reasons over 5 years to go to Penn State. Stop being Dumb Arses. Of Course he can't say he is going for $$$, that would be a stupid answer.

    Lets see:
    $2.5 million
    Great Facilities
    Great Recruiting Base

    This is no-Brainer. I'm very upset to see Cael go, but this is a NO-BRAINER.

    Also, Get off Pollard's ARSE, We can't pay our Wrestling Coach $2,500,000. are you Crazy.


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    Re: The story I saw today.

    I don't even like wrestling, but Cael Sanderson is dead to me.



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    Re: The story I saw today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melvin View Post
    Its all about $$$. Cael has 2,500,000 reasons over 5 years to go to Penn State. Stop being Dumb Arses. Of Course he can't say he is going for $$$, that would be a stupid answer.

    Lets see:
    $2.5 million
    Great Facilities
    Great Recruiting Base

    This is no-Brainer. I'm very upset to see Cael go, but this is a NO-BRAINER.

    Also, Get off Pollard's ARSE, We can't pay our Wrestling Coach $2,500,000. are you Crazy.
    Where is this information? Has the contract size been officially released?



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    Re: The story I saw today.

    Everyone is talking about the contract, but I want to know what the signing bonus was?



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    Re: The story I saw today.

    Why can't he say he took the PSU job for the money??????

    Did Johnny Orr come up with some lame excuse when he came here?????? Johnny gave only one honest answer--- the money!!!!!!!!!!

    Cael-- it's not too late to come clean.


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