View Poll Results: Who do you blame?

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  • Cael - looks selfish and gave up

    53 38.13%
  • Pollard - another coach gone, completely unexpected

    29 20.86%
  • Both

    25 17.99%
  • Nobody - Cael took a better job in his eyes. Impossible for Pollard to keep him.

    32 23.02%
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    Who do you blame?

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    Re: Who do you blame?

    Cael. Selfishness.



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    Re: Who do you blame?

    Funny how things change and how everyone has got to blame someone. Maybe Cael wanted a new challenge and got more money doing it. Good for him. JP got the hottest wrestling coach in the nation for at least 3 years, yet you blame him. How many of you complainers actually went to a match this year or even over the last 10 years...yah, that is what I thought.

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    Re: Who do you blame?

    I find it hard to blame JP in this situation.



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    Re: Who do you blame?

    This poll is kinda pointless until we know a couple things...

    1. Pay
    2. Relationship between the 2
    3. Fallout
    4. Cael's true feelings about Penn State's job. (if he feels it will be easier, who can blame him)


    Hell blame Canada...



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    Re: Who do you blame?

    This will never happen, and it makes me mad... but, I wish CS would say the whole truth behind recent events. I want to know if he quit because of JP and what are the specifics behind it. Or he should say that JP did everything possible to keep him, and he has no problems with JP. I want to know if I should support JP or not. CS owes this to ISU fans.



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    Re: Who do you blame?

    I'm not that guy always screaming for Pollard's head, but this time I believe he is the one responsible and deserves to be fired. Yeah, he hired Cael on 3 years ago and made a good hire, but what good is a hire if you can't keep the coach (look at the Chizik situation, I don't think he would've done anything else for the program but who knows if he could've been kept another year or two. and don't get me wrong, I'm totally on the Rhoads band-wagon). JP has consistently shown that he is an inconsistent and incompetant AD in all things other than $$$. If he wasn't able to get the funds he has, I seriously think he would've been gone years ago. This time $$$ shouldn't matter, get someone that can actually bring our athletic programs to the level to deserve the facilities we're building.



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    Re: Who do you blame?

    Have heard that JP and CS had some sort of heated argument and Cael pretty much told him that he was done. Also heard that Cael didn't even bring up money. Like I stated that is just what I heard from some people in the athletic dept. Take it for what it's worth.

    I don't even know what we had to offer in terms of what it would have taken to keep him. I just think that Geoffrey has to figure out what is going on and Pollard will have to answer to someone. Sharpen the pitch forks and fuel up the torches.



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    Re: Who do you blame?

    Quote Originally Posted by bellzisu View Post
    This poll is kinda pointless until we know a couple things...

    1. Pay
    2. Relationship between the 2
    3. Fallout
    4. Cael's true feelings about Penn State's job. (if he feels it will be easier, who can blame him)


    Hell blame Canada...
    It's George Bush's fault!



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    Re: Who do you blame?

    I don't care why at this point. I only care if he's going to poach all of our wrestlers. I wish ISU2007 would chime in, he knows more about this stuff than 99% of the posters on here.



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    Re: Who do you blame?

    If the rumored contract is true, I blame the 2.5 million for the reason why he is leaving.



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    Re: Who do you blame?

    Pollard isn't necessarily to blame, just unexpectedly hired unloyal coaches. Selfishness by the coach as well. Yet, how can Cael be selfish if he left one of the elite wrestling programs in the nation? What's so great at Penn State? As far as I see, he took a step back. Maybe that is what he wanted.

    Pollard is still doing a great time. He should never be the one to blame for events like these.


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    Re: Who do you blame?

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloner29 View Post
    Have heard that JP and CS had some sort of heated argument and Cael pretty much told him that he was done. Also heard that Cael didn't even bring up money. Like I stated that is just what I heard from some people in the athletic dept. Take it for what it's worth.

    I don't even know what we had to offer in terms of what it would have taken to keep him. I just think that Geoffrey has to figure out what is going on and Pollard will have to answer to someone. Sharpen the pitch forks and fuel up the torches.
    If anything like that happened (and assuming JP was at fault), then CS needs to let us all know, so we can all unite in sending JP on his way. Or tell us what really happened so we can judge who is full of ****... JP or CS or both! I am sick of these politically correct press releases.



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    Re: Who do you blame?

    At some point in the future, and assuming there were tensions between the two, when Pollard is no longer the AD... would Cael entertain the idea of returning?? Assuming he's both successful and a "cyclone" at heart.

    One other note... I can't image why the two would have reason to have a "heated" argument?



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    Re: Who do you blame?

    Quote Originally Posted by michaelrr1 View Post
    Who's responsible?
    Tom Brands, obviously.



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