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    Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    Colvin is still a 4* but dropped to #99. Should have waited to commit to ISU until after they updated!

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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    Yeah oh well. At least they kept him in double-digits.



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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Colvin is still a 4* but dropped to #99. Should have waited to commit to ISU until after they updated!

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    Useless rankings are useless. I lose more and more respect for rivals everytime they attempt to do recruiting rankings.

    He drops to 99 in rivals rankings but makes it up to 77 in the most recent ESPN/Scouts rankings. Yeah, that makes sense.



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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    How far will HB drop if he commits to ISU?



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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey View Post
    Useless rankings are useless. I lose more and more respect for rivals everytime they attempt to do recruiting rankings.

    He drops to 99 in rivals rankings but makes it up to 77 in the most recent ESPN/Scouts rankings. Yeah, that makes sense.
    How does it not make sense? ESPN scouts think he is better than RIVALS scouts. It makes perfect sense. Some people think that Brackins is better than Aldrich. Who is right?



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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    Hb will drop down to a 1 star if he commits to ISU.


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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    This is the best I've seen for recruiting rankings - it indexes several sites to give an average ranking. The only problem is it fails to account for recruiting services that don't rank 5th year HS players (John Wall, for instance, or CB a couple years ago).

    rscihoops.com

    And complaining about a guy ranked 77 on one site and 99 on another is silly. There's hardly difference between 17 and 39, let alone 77 and 99.

    And, for what it's worth, in my opinion, Scout does the best job with basketball rankings and Rivals does the best job with football. ESPN probably has the most potential to do the best at both, but they're in 3rd place or worse for both basketball and football at this point.


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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    rivals has [Cousins] still going to memphis on team rankings... but then have him commiting to kentucky on the front page.



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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    How does it not make sense? ESPN scouts think he is better than RIVALS scouts. It makes perfect sense. Some people think that Brackins is better than Aldrich. Who is right?
    Uhhh, that he is rising in one set of rankings and falling in another? Until recently ESPN didn't have him rated and Rivals had him rated higher. His team won the Illinois state championship, he played against some of the best competition in the nation. The season is over, and his rating drops. That makes sense to you? Ok.



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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by kucyclone View Post
    This is the best I've seen for recruiting rankings - it indexes several sites to give an average ranking. The only problem is it fails to account for recruiting services that don't rank 5th year HS players (John Wall, for instance, or CB a couple years ago).

    rscihoops.com

    And complaining about a guy ranked 77 on one site and 99 on another is silly. There's hardly difference between 17 and 39, let alone 77 and 99.

    And, for what it's worth, in my opinion, Scout does the best job with basketball rankings and Rivals does the best job with football. ESPN probably has the most potential to do the best at both, but they're in 3rd place or worse for both basketball and football at this point.
    Thanks for telling me how to think. Apparently you also don't know that ESPN uses Scouts rankings too. So how do you figure they are "third"? Good work.



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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey View Post
    Thanks for telling me how to think. Apparently you also don't know that ESPN uses Scouts rankings too. So how do you figure they are "third"? Good work.
    You couldn't be more wrong.

    College Basketball Recruiting - ESPNU 100 - ESPN
    Scout.com: Men's Basketball Recruiting

    Good try. Also, where in my post did I tell anybody "how to think"?


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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by kucyclone View Post
    In his defense, ESPN created Scouts, Inc which could be confused for scout.com.



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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    Wow thats lame! I see that Darius Smith jumped all the way up to a 4 star ranked 71 after he committed to Uconn, passing colvin....



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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    Bored and can't sleep - not a good combination - I just went back and looked at Rivals' rankings of players from previous classes, that have completed or nearly completed college now, ranked in the 90-110 range, and some outside that 90-110 range, and there are some damn good players in it. The conclusion: there is absolutely no reason to get worked up over an already-signed player's ranking. If he really is better than the guys in front of him, he'll have a chance to prove it on the court during the next four years.

    Some examples:

    Class of 2003:

    • #92 Renaldo Balkman - 1st round draft pick; currently a nice role-player on the Denver Nuggets
    • #94 J.R. Reynolds - averaged 18 PPG during career at Virginia
    • #97 Patrick Ewing Jr. - 2nd round draft pick last year
    • #98 Sammy Meija - 2nd round draft pick in 2007
    • #103 D.J. Strawberry - 2nd round draft pick in 2007
    • also of note:
      • Will Blalock #74
      • Lee Humphrey #81 - starter for 2 National Championship teams
      • Curtis Stinson, #127
      • Paul Milsap, #130 - Averaging 14 and 9 for the Jazz
      • Aaron Gray #148


    Class of 2004

    • #93 Andrew Brackman - 1st round pick in 2007 (MLB) draft
    • #94 Anthony Morrow - scored 37 points in an NBA game a few months ago
    • #104 Sean Williams - #17 pick in 2007 draft
    • #105 Taurean Green - PG of 2 National Championship teams
    • also of note:
      • Rahshon Clark, #67
      • Drew Neitzel, #68 - 2nd team All-American
      • Joakim Noah, #75
      • Shan Foster, #82
      • Josh Heytfelt, #120
      • Goran Suton, #123 - perhaps the most important player on the 2nd best team in the country this season
      • Alex Thompson, #127
      • Trent Plaisted, #140
      • Chris Lofton, #146
      • DeMarre Carroll, #148

    Class of 2005

    • #99 Jerel McNeil - 2nd team All-American
    • #100 Darren Collison - 3rd team All-American; possible 1st round pick
    • #101 Curtis Jerrells
    • #103 A.J. Abrams
    • also of note:
      • Greg Paulus ranked ahead of both Chalmers and Rush ( - first and hopefully last time I've used a smiley face)
      • Shawn Taggert, #35
      • Chris Douglas-Roberts, #75
      • Marcus Williams, #76
      • Leo Lyons, #112
      • Denis Clemente, #120
      • Taylor Griffin, #141 - if coaches could go back in time 4 years, is there any doubt he could have gone to any school in the country?

    The point is that there's no reason to get worked up over these rankings. No one remembers that Brian Zoubek (numbers through 3 years - 8mpg, 3ppg, 3rpg) was ranked #24 in the same class that Luke Harangody (2nd team All-American) was ranked outside of the top 100. No one cares that David Padgett and Brian Butch were both ranked 140 spots ahead of Aaron Gray.

    I don't remember Oklahoma fans crying when Blake Griffin was ranked lower than Craig Brackins.

    So just calm down, be happy that ISU is getting a talent that has a chance to be a really nice player. The coaching and Colvin's work ethic, in the end, will mean far, far more than this ranking.



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    Re: Updated Rivals 2009 Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey View Post
    Uhhh, that he is rising in one set of rankings and falling in another? Until recently ESPN didn't have him rated and Rivals had him rated higher. His team won the Illinois state championship, he played against some of the best competition in the nation. The season is over, and his rating drops. That makes sense to you? Ok.
    You are a riot! So if me and you sit down next to each other and watch 1,000 kids play basketball.....you think we will have the players ranked in the same order?!?!?

    Not a chance. He is ranked in the top 100 in each. There really is no difference b/w the 75-100 ranked players.



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