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    Paying for online news...

    Journalism Online: time to start paying for online news - Ars Technica

    Pretty interesting. I'm actually sort of in favor of something like this SO LONG AS it allows for more than just the fluff news we get these days that passes as journalism.

    I love that they brought up The Economist. If all journalism was as well written and thought out as the articles in The Economist, I'd be more than willing to pay for it (and I do pay for TE).

    You couldn't get me to pay a cent for the fluff that passes as "news" on most websites these days, though. 10 cents to read about how when it's sunny out you should wear sunscreen? No thanks.


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    Re: Paying for online news...

    I prefer to get my news from some guy who sits in his underwear all day and blogs about world events. Pretty sure THAT guy will always be free.



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    Re: Paying for online news...

    I would never pay for news these days. It's to accesable. Plus most writers are like Raka Basu and can't figure out why the Des Moines Rag is going under.



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    Re: Paying for online news...

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    I would never pay for news these days. It's to accesable. Plus most writers are like Raka Basu and can't figure out why the Des Moines Rag is going under.
    Ah, if only dictionaries were as accessible, we'd be set.


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    Re: Paying for online news...

    Interesting concept. As someone who works at a publishing company I can tell you we wrestle with this issue every day. As of right now, all of our content is available on line for free, no registration required, but many others in our niche are locking their content down and going with a pay model.



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    Re: Paying for online news...

    so you're telling me there are other places to get your news other than CF?



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    Re: Paying for online news...

    Quote Originally Posted by cmoneyr View Post
    Ah, if only dictionaries were as accessible, we'd be set.
    Luckily we have an endless supply of sarcasm or we'd be in real trouble.

    I think people are willing to pay for news - look at Rivals and Scout. You just have to provide a good service with good information.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BryceC View Post
    Luckily we have an endless supply of sarcasm or we'd be in real trouble.

    I think people are willing to pay for news - look at Rivals and Scout. You just have to provide a good service with good information.
    I do my best to supply, but I am but one man.


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    Re: Paying for online news...

    Quote Originally Posted by J-Diggy View Post
    Interesting concept. As someone who works at a publishing company I can tell you we wrestle with this issue every day. As of right now, all of our content is available on line for free, no registration required, but many others in our niche are locking their content down and going with a pay model.
    I have no problem with locking content down and paying for it, but print media is going to have to find a market that's willing to pay for it. A lot of folks read the news online simply because it's there. If the DM Register stopped making their content available for free, I probably wouldn't read it. I certainly wouldn't pay to read most of it. I might pay a small amount to read a few choice articles, though, if it was something that was actually worthwhile (which I would argue hasn't applied to the register in quite a while). My suspicion is that the money they would make off of me paying for the 2-4 articles per week is not much more than they would make by just selling advertising.

    Essentially, they're giving the news away as it currently stands, and the quality shows that. If a newspaper is expecting me to pay for something, they better be offering something more than what they are currently providing - or what's available for free.

    Section by section, the traditional newspapers really have very little to offer against the free competition:

    International/National news - Extensively covered by the national outlets

    Business - Mostly covered by national outlets; Local business briefs, if not covered by local publications certainly have a niche here.

    Classifieds - Craigslist

    Lifestyle - No possible way can the newspapers expect to compete with the variety and depth of coverage out there in the web. Some "niche" publications have a great place here, though (DM Juice for instance)

    Sports - National news is drowned by the major outlets. Local/State sports clearly have a place here, but the traditional outlets are really no better off than the "new media" message boards and specialty sites. Gone are the days that I would look to the Register or KCCI for authoritative news on ISU/Iowa/UNI/Drake. Today it's either on the pay sites, or on sites like CF.

    Opinion/editorial - Blogs really shine here. The amount of effort that goes into writing one of these pieces is not much more than the average layperson blogger can muscle up.

    Essentially the only real "news" that the local papers have left to do all on their own is local news. Stories on accidents, police reports, state and local government. Those are the sorts of things that are going to have to pay the bills for traditional media. And, quite honestly, I think that's a losing battle. It wouldn't take much to have the sum total of all that reporting replaced by a few dedicated bloggers/reporters.

    "Press release journalism" is nearing it's end, and I can't say I'm horribly upset by it.


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    Re: Paying for online news...

    I think the biggest problem is one company will make you pay. The other will give it for free. So basically it's like this site compared to Rivals or Scout.



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    Re: Paying for online news...

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    I think the biggest problem is one company will make you pay. The other will give it for free. So basically it's like this site compared to Rivals or Scout.
    Some people still pay for Rivals or Scout though, I guess to get the news faster? I guess my thing would be if you're going to charge for content you better be able to back it up with good content. If KCCI or the Register tried to charge to view their content they'd get laughed off the internet. But, as jumbo said, someone like The Economist would have a better shot at doing it and being legit.


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    Re: Paying for online news...

    I will never pay a cent for the DM Rag, online or in paper version. I do occasionally read it online for free, and get the print copy for free at Kum and Go on Sunday when I get gas, but they will never get my money.



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