MLB: Pick a Chicago Rotation

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  • Carlos Zambrano

    86 92.47%
  • Ryan Dempster

    64 68.82%
  • Rich Harden

    74 79.57%
  • Ted Lilly

    53 56.99%
  • Sean Marshall

    20 21.51%
  • Mark Buehrle

    60 64.52%
  • Gavin Floyd

    33 35.48%
  • Jose Contreras

    14 15.05%
  • John Danks

    47 50.54%
  • Bartolo Colon

    12 12.90%
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    Pick a Chicago Rotation

    If you were able to pick five starters from the current starting rotation of the two Chicago teams (not just for this year), what would your rotation be? I think this would be rather interesting, taking contract situations into consideration. Both teams pitch in places where the ball flies, so take that into consideration (and yes, I would select some Cubs... )

    2009 and 2008 stats

    Carlos Zambrano (1-0, 3.00; 14-6, 3.91) age 27
    5 years, 91.5 million thru 2012 (08:$15M, 09:$17.75M, 10:$17.875M, 11:$17.875M, 12:$18M, 13:$19.25M vesting player option
    ); Full NTC


    Ryan Dempster (0-0, 3.00, 17-6, 2.96) age 31
    4 years/$52M (2009-12) (09:$8M, 10:$12.5M, 11:$13.5M, 12:$14M player option)

    Rich Harden (0-0, 1.50, 5-1, 1.77 w Cubs) age 27
    $7 million club option for 09

    Ted Lilly (1-0, 9.00, 17-9, 4.09) age 33
    4 years/$40M (2007-10) (07:$5M, 08:$7M, 09:$12M, 10:$12M) No Trade Protection

    Sean Marshall (-; 3-5, 3.86) age 26
    Arb. eligible 09-11, FA in '12

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    Mark Buehrle (1-0, 2.38; 15-12, 3.79) age 30
    4 years/$56M (2008-11)
    08:$14M, 09:$14M, 10:$14M, 11:$14M
    no-trade protection
    2008: full no-trade clause
    2009 - July 15, 2010: limited no-trade protection allowing Buehrle to block trades to certain unspecified clubs. A trade triggers an escalator paying $1M raise to $15M annually, plus a guaranteed fifth year paying $15M for 2012.
    July 16, 2010-2011: Buehrle may not be traded without his permission, under right as 10-and-5 player


    Gavin Floyd (0-1, 2.57; 17-8, 3.84) age 26 4 years/$15.5M (2009-12), plus 2013 club option
    (09:$0.75M, 10:$2.75M, 11:$5M, 12:$7M, 13:$9.5M club option)


    Bartolo Colon (1-0, 0.00; 4-2, 3.29) age 35
    1 year/$1M (2009)

    John Danks (0-0, 0.00; 12-9, 3.32) age 23
    2009: Near Minimum, 2010-12: Arb. Eligible, 2013: Free Agent

    Jose Contreras (0-1, 7.20; 7-6, 4.54) age 37-51
    $10 million, in last year of contract


    So....pick a rotation for the next five years....and let's say your payroll will be around that of the Cubs (135ish million). Do you worry about winning now, winning in the future, or both? With guys like Harden, you may or may not be able to resign him....

    Fun game, eh?


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    Re: Pick a Chicago Rotation

    I went with Zambrano, Harden, Floyd, Danks and Buehrle, with Buehrle edging out Dempster by a nose thanks to track record and the fact that Buehrle has never been on the DL.

    I will say anyone not taking Danks....I can't understand that.



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    I went with Buehrle, Dempster, Danks, Harden, Marshall

    I want NOTHING to do with Zambrano...


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    Re: Pick a Chicago Rotation

    Zambrano's good....that's a fat contract though. With Harden you'd run the risk of losing him after this year, but he's also damn good, but he's also really prone to injury.

    I'd never pick Colon or Contreras, btw.



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    Re: Pick a Chicago Rotation

    Zambrano, Dempster, Harden, Floyd, and Buehrle, at least for now.



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    Re: Pick a Chicago Rotation

    Two things confuse me, why would anyone vote for Colon/Contreras, and why does Ted Lilly have the same amount of votes as John Danks? Danks is better, younger, and much cheaper.



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    Re: Pick a Chicago Rotation

    Quote Originally Posted by CrossCyed View Post
    Two things confuse me, why would anyone vote for Colon/Contreras, and why does Ted Lilly have the same amount of votes as John Danks? Danks is better, younger, and much cheaper.
    Because even though your intentions of this post are good, I still refuse to vote for any white sox pitcher!



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    Re: Pick a Chicago Rotation

    Quote Originally Posted by mplscyclone View Post

    I want NOTHING to do with Zambrano...
    That would depend on who gets to manage. Pairing Ozzie with Zambrano would have to be good for some sports center hi-lites.



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    Re: Pick a Chicago Rotation

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    That would depend on who gets to manage. Pairing Ozzie with Zambrano would have to be good for some sports center hi-lites.
    Zambrano and Ozzie love each other.



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    Re: Pick a Chicago Rotation

    Quote Originally Posted by acrozier22 View Post
    Because even though your intentions of this post are good, I still refuse to vote for any white sox pitcher!
    It's actually pretty interesting when you factor in contract situations.



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    Re: Pick a Chicago Rotation

    Quote Originally Posted by CrossCyed View Post
    Zambrano's good....that's a fat contract though. With Harden you'd run the risk of losing him after this year, but he's also damn good, but he's also really prone to injury.

    I'd never pick Colon or Contreras, btw.

    I'd take one year of Harden over several years of Zambrano.

    Also Zambrano isn't really that good. Look at his K:BB ratio and his K/9 over the past few years. He got only 14 wins in the team with the best record in the league.

    He's also a headcase and I wouldn't want to deal with any of that.


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    Re: Pick a Chicago Rotation

    everyone is talking trash about zambrano being a headcase and what not...but yet he is the best pitcher on both staffs and known as one of the best in the pros...jst because im a cubs fan doesnt mean i dont agree but how can u not take obv the best pitcher out of the ten and one of the top 15 in the league!!


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    Re: Pick a Chicago Rotation

    If I was picking a team I would start with Danks. Biggest upside of anybody on the list, only 24, finished 5th in league ERA last year.

    Seems to handle pressure well for a young guy. Beat Twins 1-0 in tie breaker game last year, then won playoff start.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tweedt4Cy View Post
    everyone is talking trash about zambrano being a headcase and what not...but yet he is the best pitcher on both staffs and known as one of the best in the pros...jst because im a cubs fan doesnt mean i dont agree but how can u not take obv the best pitcher out of the ten and one of the top 15 in the league!!
    He struck out only 130 guys last year. He walked almost 100 guys last year. His ERA was just under 4. He is NOT the best pitcher on the list and definitley NOT one of the best in the league. Please actually look at the stats instead of going off of 4 or 5 years ago....


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    Re: Pick a Chicago Rotation

    Wow good topic. You realize how good the Cubs rotation is after this. I tried to be fair and pick two from the Sox, but it was very hard! Biased I'm sure.


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