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    Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    Article from the CR Gazette:

    ISU still paying big bucks to old staff | GazetteOnline.com - Cedar Rapids, Iowa City

    Our total liability is huge. The biggest are these two guys:

    Bolt - $257,500/year
    McFarland - $283,250/year

    If they don't get other jobs we have to pay them these salaries until June 2010. If they do get other jobs that pay less, we have to make up the difference. Bolt, by the way, is an assistant at Auburn -- for $90k/year. Which means we are paying 65% of his salary for the next two years. McFarland is probably taking a 2 year vacation on our dime.


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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    Just another way Chizik f'd us on the way out the door.



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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    I wouldn't be surprised if some donor stepped up and covered this.



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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if some donor stepped up and covered this.
    Not sure how that would change the situation. That donor money would be better served in other areas of the athletic department.



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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002 View Post
    Not sure how that would change the situation. That donor money would be better served in other areas of the athletic department.
    Because if a donor is really unhappy, they'll pay to get that off the books when they normally wouldn't have given the money. It's essentially the same principle as paying a buyout on a coach when you fire them.



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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    It could be worse. Not really that much money in the greater scheme of things.



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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    So basically Chizik cost ISU $50,000 by taking off to Auburn. Thanks for nothing Chizzlestick. (800,000 cost of buyout of coaches - 750,000 from Auburn= 50,000).



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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    Also hate to see the extra money, but what is fair is fair.

    1. We have to be competitive with our assistant contracts or we will not get good assistants. If most other schools have similar buyout terms or provisions in assistant contracts, we have to do the same. If the terms are out of line in comparison, then this needs to be fixed and there is reason to be upset

    2. Whats fair is fair. Most of these coaches got stiffed by Chiz as well and we have to do what is right and honor and pay the contracts. May not seem popular, but 95% of us we were in their position would expect to have our agreement fulfilled.

    3. Like them or dislike them, these coaches had made a commitment to ISU and were not the ones who bailed. We should not bail on them just like any player who gives their best.

    Just my opinion,



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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    Quote Originally Posted by CyAggie View Post
    Also hate to see the extra money, but what is fair is fair.

    1. We have to be competitive with our assistant contracts or we will not get good assistants. If most other schools have similar buyout terms or provisions in assistant contracts, we have to do the same. If the terms are out of line in comparison, then this needs to be fixed and there is reason to be upset

    2. Whats fair is fair. Most of these coaches got stiffed by Chiz as well and we have to do what is right and honor and pay the contracts. May not seem popular, but 95% of us we were in their position would expect to have our agreement fulfilled.

    3. Like them or dislike them, these coaches had made a commitment to ISU and were not the ones who bailed. We should not bail on them just like any player who gives their best.

    Just my opinion,
    Good post. Spot on!



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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    Quote Originally Posted by hursts View Post
    So basically Chizik cost ISU $50,000 by taking off to Auburn. Thanks for nothing Chizzlestick. (800,000 cost of buyout of coaches - 750,000 from Auburn= 50,000).
    Actually it's more than that:

    In all, ISU must pay four out-of-work coaches and strength and conditioning coach Ken Sheppard upward of $800,000, money to Bolt and whatever the difference in salary, if any, to Rodgers and Koonz.

    800k to the out of work coaches and Sheppard
    334k for 2 years to Bolt
    unknown amount to Rodgers and Koonz
    plus the cost of the coaching search (which was six figures, as I recall)

    All in all, the 750k we got from Auburn probably covered about half of the cost of the coaching change.


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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    Quote Originally Posted by CyAggie View Post
    Also hate to see the extra money, but what is fair is fair.

    1. We have to be competitive with our assistant contracts or we will not get good assistants. If most other schools have similar buyout terms or provisions in assistant contracts, we have to do the same. If the terms are out of line in comparison, then this needs to be fixed and there is reason to be upset

    2. Whats fair is fair. Most of these coaches got stiffed by Chiz as well and we have to do what is right and honor and pay the contracts. May not seem popular, but 95% of us we were in their position would expect to have our agreement fulfilled.

    3. Like them or dislike them, these coaches had made a commitment to ISU and were not the ones who bailed. We should not bail on them just like any player who gives their best.

    Just my opinion,
    I begrudgingly agree.......but it doesn't make it suck any less.



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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    Monty... I'm so surprised that you haven't proposed simply "shuttering" the entire ISU athletic dept. Obviously not one solitary good thing has happened in 3 years...



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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    Do we actually owe Rogers and Koonz anything? I would think being a position coach in the NFL pays at least as well as what Rogers made at ISU. I'm not sure of Koonz's role at Texas but his salary was one of the lowest on the staff here.

    Another area I think we are saving on is Rhoads salary vs. GC's. I believe Geno was making more than what Rhoads is going to make this year.

    Hopefully MacFarland gets off his rear and finds a job somewhere. His salary is the killer. Shouldn't we make him do something at the university if we are still paying him? Wash dishes, park cars, pick-up trash, etc.



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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    Hopefully MacFarland gets off his rear and finds a job somewhere. His salary is the killer. Shouldn't we make him do something at the university if we are still paying him? Wash dishes, park cars, pick-up trash, etc.
    I gotta say it, good for Robert McFarland. He got **** on worse than anybody and he has earned the right to do nothing and get paid. If I were him, I'd move to Arizona and play golf all day.



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    Re: Former assistants still costing us big bucks

    Its time for the big dog Albaugh to step up to the plate and make us a contender....money,donations=facility upgrades=big time recruits=wins

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