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    CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

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    Scout.com: 2010 NFL Draft - Top 25 Quarterback Prospects

    2010 NFL Draft Position Rankings

    The Quarterbacks


    Going into the 2009 college football season season, here are the top prospects to watch out for. For now, only FBS/D-I players who'll be eligible for the 2009 NFL Draft are listed. The player analysis will come this summer.

    FRANCHISE STARS

    1. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma (Jr.)
    2. Colt McCoy, Texas

    POSSIBLE NFL STARTERS

    3. Tim Tebow, Florida
    4. Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame (Jr.)
    5. Dan LeFevour, Central Michigan
    6. Jevan Snead, Ole Miss (Jr.)
    7. Zac Robinson, Oklahoma State
    8. Tim Hiller, Western Michigan

    TOP PROSPECTS ON THE RADAR

    9. Colin Kaepernick, Nevada (Jr.)
    10. Case Keenum, Houston (Jr.)
    11. Jarrett Brown, West Virginia
    12. Rusty Smith, Florida Atlantic
    13. Juice Williams, Illinois
    14. Max Hall, BYU
    15. Tony Pike, Cincinnati
    16. Joe Webb, UAB
    17. Mitch Mustain, USC (Jr.)
    18. Adam Weber, Minnesota (Jr.)
    19. Todd Reesing, Kansas
    20. Tyler Sheehan, Bowling Green
    21. Daryll Clark, Penn State
    22. Andy Schmitt, Eastern Michigan
    23. Greg Alexander, Hawaii
    24. Ricky Stanzi, Iowa (Jr.)
    25. Jake Locker, Washington (Jr.)


    Thought this was interesting, particularly because ISU fans seem very confident that AA is better than Ricky Stanzi. Personally I think they are relatively equal because they are in different systems. Stanzi is a better pro style QB than Arnaud and Arnaud is a better spread QB than Stanzi. Just thought I'd bring in the commentary of a totally objective source.

    This list does destroy its credibility though by ranking Jimmy Clausen at 4 and Tim Tebow at 3. IMO Clausen is way overrated and Tebow will struggle greatly to get his footwork and fundamentals in order going from a college spread offense to an NFL pro offense (something all spread QB's are at a huge disadvantage becasue of).



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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    Iowa is a better team than ISU, so Stanzi looks like a better QB.


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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    Stanzi should be top 5 obviously.



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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by brianhos View Post
    Iowa is a better team than ISU, so Stanzi looks like a better QB.

    Yeah, I agree that after looking at that list the QB's on better teams did seem to be given an edge. However, I think the primary reason Stanzi made that list is because there just aren't that many pure pro style QB's in college anymore and spread QB's rarely succeed in the NFL.



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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    You want to know how that list loses credibility? Two words.

    Todd Reesing.

    Great college QB, but don't know if he has the arm strength to make up for his lack of height when the NFL comes around.



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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    Arnaud is a far better pro prospect than Stanzi. He's stronger, has a stronger arm, better vision and a far quicker release. My guess, they just haven't seen much of Arnaud to have him on the radar.



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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by d4nim4l View Post
    You want to know how that list loses credibility? Two words.

    Todd Reesing.

    Great college QB, but don't know if he has the arm strength to make up for his lack of height when the NFL comes around.

    Again, this list is looking at successful college QB's, but it is looking at it from the context of the 2010 draft. Agree that Reesing is a fantastic college QB, but he runs in a spread offense and many doubt he can make the NFL throws.



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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkfan View Post
    Yeah, I agree that after looking at that list the QB's on better teams did seem to be given an edge. However, I think the primary reason Stanzi made that list is because there just aren't that many pure pro style QB's in college anymore and spread QB's rarely succeed in the NFL.
    I think that would be the wrong argument to make. Here's why:

    McCoy
    LeFevour
    Robinson
    Hiller
    Kaepernick
    Williams
    Reesing
    Clark
    Alexander

    All spread quarterbacks. All ranked higher than Stanzi. Arnaud is not on here because he plays for a 2-10 team.

    That isn't taking anything away from Stanzi, but rather saying that a lot of these guys are on here because they are the most visible players on good teams. With the exception of a few of course.

    For some reason people get a boner over Locker still.



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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    Arnaud is a far better pro prospect than Stanzi. He's stronger, has a stronger arm, better vision and a far quicker release. My guess, they just haven't seen much of Arnaud to have him on the radar.

    I agree that Arnaud, statistically, will be the better college QB. However, I doubt seriously that he will thrive in the NFL. The reason Stanzi made the list is because he will have 4 seasons of developing his footwork and making throws that he would need to make in the NFL, an advantage that Arnaud will not have. Because of the two different offenses they are in, Arnaud's NFL potential is handicapped.

    Edit: I doubt seriously that Stanzi will thrive in the NFL either, but he at least has experience with the footwork and throws he'd have to make when he got there.



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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    Arnaud is certainly proven to learn three different styles of offense vs Stanzi hand it off to the rb and 3 yards and a cloud of dust and an occasional roll out to the strong side and dump it off to the tight end...Advantage Arnaud...That is a bonus of 3 Cotstache rides



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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkfan View Post
    I agree that Arnaud, statistically, will be the better college QB. However, I doubt seriously that he will thrive in the NFL. The reason Stanzi made the list is because he will have 4 seasons of developing his footwork and making throws that he would need to make in the NFL, an advantage that Arnaud will not have. Because of the two different offenses they are in, Arnaud's NFL potential is handicapped.
    I REALLY hope you're kidding, or that's freaking hilarious!

    Arnaud's footwork blows Stanzi's out of the water, Arnaud throws a better ball than Stanzi, and Arnaud is a bigger playmaker with the ball in his hands than Stanzi. Stanzi was good at his job last season: hand it off.



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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    No, he's right, AA will have had 5 years to learn how to develop his game for the NFL. Everyone laugh now, but AA will be a 1st rounder in 2 years. You heard it here first.


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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkfan View Post
    I agree that Arnaud, statistically, will be the better college QB. However, I doubt seriously that he will thrive in the NFL. The reason Stanzi made the list is because he will have 4 seasons of developing his footwork and making throws that he would need to make in the NFL, an advantage that Arnaud will not have. Because of the two different offenses they are in, Arnaud's NFL potential is handicapped.

    Edit: I doubt seriously that Stanzi will thrive in the NFL either, but he at least has experience with the footwork and throws he'd have to make when he got there.
    That is why Arnaud has a better chance to thrive than Stanzi. Footwork can be taught. Timing can be taught. Reading can be taught.

    You can't teach arm strength and Arnaud has thrown the deep outs, hooks and bombs that are necessary in the NFL. I have seen Stanzi make very few of these throws. Largely because he did not have to. Maybe things will change, but I doubt it.



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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkfan View Post
    I agree that Arnaud, statistically, will be the better college QB. However, I doubt seriously that he will thrive in the NFL. The reason Stanzi made the list is because he will have 4 seasons of developing his footwork and making throws that he would need to make in the NFL, an advantage that Arnaud will not have. Because of the two different offenses they are in, Arnaud's NFL potential is handicapped.

    Edit: I doubt seriously that Stanzi will thrive in the NFL either, but he at least has experience with the footwork and throws he'd have to make when he got there.

    At the rate former Pats coaches are taking over, I'm guessing at least half the NFL will be running some variation of the spread offense by the time either one gets there, so Arnaud may have the advantage... Next year you could have as many as 8 NFL teams running the spread.



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    Re: CFN Ranks best QB's in 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    I REALLY hope you're kidding, or that's freaking hilarious!
    You do realize that the #1 reason pro scouts HATE the spread offense is because it handicaps a QB's ability to develop their footwork and it limits the numbers of NFL throws they make. If you knew that my post would probably not seem "freaking hilarious". Spread QB's simply have a lot higher failure rate in the NFL than QB's who run in a pro style set because they have less experience with NFL style offenses and the learning curve is that much higher.



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