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    Is there an electrician in the house?

    I've got a wiring gremlin in my house I can't seem to track down. My house has 12-3 wire through the whole thing even on circuits that aren't 3-way. I have two breakers right next to each other, one goes to the black wire and the other goes to the red wire in the same bundle. I can only have one of the two breakers on at once for some reason. I turn one on the recepticles work fine, I turn the both on they both trip. Anybody have some suggestions on how to track this down?



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    Re: Is there an electrician in the house?

    If it's in the same bundle then I would imagine you have bare wires and your black and red wires are shorting which trip the breakers. Have you worked on anything or somehow scraped insulation off the wires making them touch.

    If you can turn them on individually and each circuit runs fine as long as the other breaker isn't switched on, then that is your problem. You just have to figure out where they are crossing.


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    Re: Is there an electrician in the house?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonesrule91 View Post
    If it's in the same bundle then I would imagine you have bare wires and your black and red wires are shorting which trip the breakers. Have you worked on anything or somehow scraped insulation off the wires making them touch.

    If you can turn them on individually and each circuit runs fine as long as the other breaker isn't switched on, then that is your problem. You just have to figure out where they are crossing.
    Agree here. Seems like an obvious short between the two. The trick is tracing it. I don't suppose you're lucky enough for this to be basement light and outlet with exposed wiring, are you?

    You must know what each breaker controls, if you turn everything connected to those two breakers off, do you still have the problem? If it happens only when one component is active, that should clue you in on the location, if it happens with everything disconnected or off, it's somewhere between the breaker and the point where the bundles split.



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    Re: Is there an electrician in the house?

    If the red and black wires are connected to each other somewhere, that would cause the breaker to trip. Are they to outlets or lights or something else?



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    Re: Is there an electrician in the house?

    Dude, this sounds like more than a gremlin. How long has this been going on?


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    Re: Is there an electrician in the house?

    They go to the outlets in my kitchen. I figured they were shorting somewhere but I'm having trouble seeing where. It all started when I was pulling them out to tile the backsplash. I know it's one of two recepticles I just can't see any bare spots in either box to save my live.



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    Re: Is there an electrician in the house?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Dude, this sounds like more than a gremlin. How long has this been going on?
    It might just be these guys



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