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    Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    This story has gotten some pub today, and I authored a post about it in other Police thread.

    A quick backstory for those of you not familiar with what happened.

    Dallas Cowboys running back Ryan Moats was driving himself and his family to the hospital to be the bedside of his dying mother-in-law. Being in a hurry, Moats had turned his hazards on, and rolled through a red light after getting the go ahead from another driver wanting to cross the intersection. They were pullled over in the hospital parking lot.

    What happened after that is very disturbing, but I'll spare everyone my opinion and let them form their own.

    Dallas police chief apologizes for conduct of officer who drew gun on NFL player outside hospital | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Dallas-Fort Worth Crime News | Dallas-Fort Worth News

    Ryan Moats: The Video Of Ryan Moats Getting Pulled Over Is Intense And Troubling

    The arresting officer has been placed on administrative leave and the Dallas Police Chief issued a public apology to the Moats family.



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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    ya that is pretty sad with a family member dying i would have been ******



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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    if it would have been any family member they would have to subdue me before they died in this circumstance



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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    So if he would have just let the red light turn then he probably would have gotten there in time, rather then having to wait for the cop to write the ticket and everything?


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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    According to him, he stopped at the light with his flashers on, and the only other vehicle at that interesection waved him through.



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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    Saw this story earlier today. It's pretty sad.... I am surprised Moats kept his head (relatively speaking- family was dying). I'm not sure I could have kept me cool in that situation. That cop needs his head examined.



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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    Remember guys, cops are perfect.


    In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection.

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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    Remember guys, cops are perfect.
    I don't think anyone in the other thread is saying cops are perfect. The officer was perfectly within his right to pull him over, as he did run the red light.

    However, after hearing Moats explain that his mother-in-law was on her deathbed, the officer could have just written the ticket or let it go. Even after the hospital security told him what was going on, he took his sweet-*** time.



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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    Every once in awhile I go back home to where I grew up- run into an old HS classmate... surprised to find out HE'S A COP???!!!

    I know people can change... but they'll let anyone (sometimes) wear the badge it seems.



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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    Remember guys, cops are perfect.
    Cops aren't perfect, that's the point. They are human beings, capable, maybe even prone to mistakes.


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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    I haven't watched it all yet. Boy, kinda a hard call.

    Can't blame him for being cautious initially and telling her to stay in the car (which she never did comply with).

    But you'd think the officer would go out of his way to figure out the situation pretty quick when you consider they were in a hospital parking lot.

    And I somewhat disagree that the driver was calm initially. The officer asked for his license and he immediately questions him with "we need to do this now?" A more calm explanation would probably been beneficial instead of just dismissing the cops instructions.

    The cop did persist a bit long. Staring in with the insurance thing was getting ridiculous.

    The thing to do (IMO) would be to go inside and verify that the family's loved one was in the hospital. If so - best wishes and leave them be.

    Ok - watched more of it. After the insurance thing - the copy got to be rather a-holeish. Like there was some sadistic pleasure in dragging it out and watching him squirm trying to get out of there.


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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    Kudos to Moats, I would have lost it. I hope that cop is fired and ends up working at Wal-Mart for the rest of his life. And people don't think some cops are on power trips.



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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    I feel bad that his mother-in-law died while he waited, and the cop was probably more of a dick than he needed to be. But neither party handled things right in this case. Moats shouldn't have ran a red light and then kept driving while the cop was attempting to stop him. The cop should have let him go when he got confirmation that his MIL was inside dying.


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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    Barney Fife!



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    Re: Speaking of incompetent police officers...

    How well would you handle things if you had just gotten a call from the the Hospital saying "get here now, she's dying". It's early morning, you get to a red light, the intersection is (mostly) empty. Would you stop? I wouldn't. Would you be calm when a cop approaches you (at the hospital) w/ his revolver drawn? I'd already be distraught from the call, let alone a cop not being able to fathom why I may have been in a hurry to get to a hospital.

    Maybe I'm just more emotional... but I rarely think of myself like that.



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