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    This team deserves more....

    Almost a thousand empty seats yesterday and several of the full seats in the balcony were KU fans. If we don't get sellouts on a Saturday against the #6 team in the nation while we are undefeated, can we really call ourselves that great of fans? Sure the fans that are there are great, but with the hustle and heart this team has, they deserve more.


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    Re: This team deserves more....

    There were many empty seats in the upper deck, I will second that.

    KU Fans found some of the open areas and just stood and spread out which kind of masked it.

    The students in the lower level were very loud, but I was surprised to see that there were really not many students at all in the upper deck.



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    Re: This team deserves more....

    I was most upset with our crowd in overtime. There was 20 seconds left and we were down 3. KU was shooting free throws. Now in my mind, I'm thinking 'ok we're down three in overtime against the 6th best team in the country.....if I go crazy and everyone else does in Hilton, MAYBE he'll miss and can tie it up..' well..besides cyclone alley, no one was standing.....i was digusted at this point...the place wasn't very loud. Just because the odds were against us, doesn't mean hilton magic is dead. Maybe if all of Hilton was going crazy, it would have rattled them. Who knows. I was very upset with our crowd in overtime.


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    Re: This team deserves more....

    I too was a little disappointed with the numbers there. I wasn't disappointed with the heart of fans that were there though.

    Until, as mjones noted - the end. A few fans quit too early. Do we want our team to quit? Will we accept it? Heck no. So why do our fans consistently do it?



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    Re: This team deserves more....

    I agree with you guys, to be honest, the crowd was a total let down. The number of empty seats in the balcony was embarassing. I think a lot of the empty seats were the students in the ends. I think all of the student tickets were sold out, but if they aren't going to show up on a Saturday for Kansas, when will they show up? I hate to say it, but maybe the student section shouldn't be so big.

    And yes, as usual the blue hairs with the best seats in the house came up small. Down 3 in overtime with 20 seconds left, Kansas is shooting free throws, and they are sitting there like bumps on a log. Well, at least the ones that are left are, many are heading for the exits like 20 seconds will really help them beat traffic.

    There is nothing in Cyclone athletics that fans like to talk up more than Hilton Magic, but if people aren't going to show up to games and back it up, I am not sure we deserve to say that. The atmosphere was good for this game, but with the team we were playing and the fight the Clones put up, the team does deserve better. Though I suppose I'm preaching to the choir here. Maybe some letters to the Daily would be a good start...



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    Re: This team deserves more....

    Official paid attendance yesterday was 13226. I'd say 3-400 at least were ku fans. The intensity of the those at Hilton is unmatched, but another 1300 Cyclone fans would help out a lot.


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    Re: This team deserves more....

    I wasn't in the area, but the announcers noted the bad weather several times. Is it possible this diminished the size of the crowd?



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    Re: This team deserves more....

    Quote Originally Posted by aeroclone View Post
    I agree with you guys, to be honest, the crowd was a total let down. The number of empty seats in the balcony was embarassing. I think a lot of the empty seats were the students in the ends. I think all of the student tickets were sold out, but if they aren't going to show up on a Saturday for Kansas, when will they show up? I hate to say it, but maybe the student section shouldn't be so big.

    And yes, as usual the blue hairs with the best seats in the house came up small. Down 3 in overtime with 20 seconds left, Kansas is shooting free throws, and they are sitting there like bumps on a log. Well, at least the ones that are left are, many are heading for the exits like 20 seconds will really help them beat traffic.

    There is nothing in Cyclone athletics that fans like to talk up more than Hilton Magic, but if people aren't going to show up to games and back it up, I am not sure we deserve to say that. The atmosphere was good for this game, but with the team we were playing and the fight the Clones put up, the team does deserve better. Though I suppose I'm preaching to the choir here. Maybe some letters to the Daily would be a good start...
    Aero, I too was very disappointed by the number of people bolting for the exits when the game was still very much in doubt, both at the end of regulation and in overtime. How are we supposed to reach that next level in athletics if a given percentage of our fanbase is more concerned with beating the traffic to get home than staying to the end to support your team? Sure, we lost, but it was a hell of an effort against the #6 team in the country. We can at least stay and applaud our team for the effort they put forth. I don't like moral victories, either, but these young men deserve our greatest support.



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    Re: This team deserves more....

    i watched the game on tv and the announcers seemed to be pretty impressed on a few occasions with our crowd. at one point one of them said something to the effect that everyone who is a fan of basketball should experience this kind of atmosphere. not exact quote but close. my hats off to those of you who were there.



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    Re: This team deserves more....

    well the espn announcers were saying close to the same thing in the iowa MSU game, and carver was probably only 2/3's full if not less



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    Re: This team deserves more....

    We have never had a terribly strong fanbase. In one thread we have people complaining that we can't get to the next level, and in the next they're complaining that season ticket prices were raised to pay for a new coach and facilities. In one thread we're talking about how good our basketball coach has done and in this one, we're reminded that we STILL can't sell out our home basketball court to play the #6 team in the nation.

    We're a very fairweather fanbase, taken as a whole.



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    Re: This team deserves more....

    Dude, anyone that is a ISU football fan is not fair-weather.



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    Re: This team deserves more....

    I was up in the student section of the balcony and was rather dissapointed as well. I found the one other guy there that wanted to stand and we stood the whole game, but we were the only ones. Much of the rest of the section was quieter than the old people, and it was the only section in Hilton that wasn't virtually full. Grrr. I remember going to the Kansas game two years ago and being 5 rows from the top in that section, it being full, and standing virtually the whole game, along with everyone else. As far as the weather goes, that should not have impacted student attendance that much.



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    Re: This team deserves more....

    I was pretty diappointed with the students as well. The lower levels really didn't fill all they way up until gametime either. I remember having to wait in the freezing cold outside Hilton at 7am in the morning for a 1pm game just for a chance to grab a lower level seat and even then I still didn't get one (thanks in part to the Hilton staff messing things up after they let us into Hilton early but letting the late arrivers be able to cut in line.)

    I was VERY impressed with the effort yesterday and if we can take the top team in the conference to the wire then we should be able to hang with anyone in the coference. It's not like this team is not fun to watch because that's not the reason people are showing up. I'm having much more fun at games this season than I did in either of the past 2 seasons and it's been great watching this team improve dramatically since the start of the season. We would have been blown out by 40 had we played like we did back in November.



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    Re: This team deserves more....

    Yep, it sucks. I think Hilton Magic deserves more. The attendance numbers over the last 20-some years are really interesting to look at. Packing the place for every game has happened before and it needs to happen again if Hilton Magic is going to be as "magical" as it can be. What in the hell was our problem from '99 to '01 when we didn't lose at home and won back-to-back conference titles? Good thing we had some good players because the fan support wasn't too good.

    YEAR RECORD % TOTAL AVG.
    1983-84 12-4 .750 202,801 12,675
    1984-85 14-3 .824 225,404 13,259
    1985-86 13-0 1.000 182,308 14,024
    1986-87 12-3 .800 201,730 13,449
    1987-88 12-3 .800 213,572 14,238 ** Hilton capacity listed as 14,092
    1988-89 11-2 .846 175,868 13,528
    1989-90 7-6 .539 178,076 13,698
    1990-91 7-5 .583 162,463 13,539
    1991-92 14-2 .875 198,514 12,407
    1992-93 16-0 1.000 217,549 13,597
    1993-94 10-5 .667 189,669 12,645
    1994-95 13-3 .813 202,450 12,653
    1995-96 13-3 .813 192,174 12,011
    1996-97 14-3 .824 207,896 12,229
    1997-98 10-6 .625 171,475 10,717
    1998-99 12-3 .800 152,134 10,142
    1999-00 18-0 1.000 189,767 10,543
    2000-01 16-0 1.000 197,760 12,360
    2001-02 11-6 .647 205,869 12,110
    2002-03 14-5 .737 223,122 11,743
    2003-04 17-1 .944 203,574 11,310
    2004-05 13-3 .812 179,343 11,209
    2005-06 10-6 .625 190,331 11,896



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