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    ISU Coaching Staff

    Has Cael and his staff lived up to your expectations?

    Please discuss here and stay the f out of the update thread.



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    Re: ISU Coaching Staff

    Cael is doing fine. Not great (no NC's), not terrible (B12 Championships). He's a young coach.



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    Re: ISU Coaching Staff

    I think you have to give him more time, I hope he can become a great coach. The year we finished second was outstanding, unfortunately the past two years have been a big letdown.

    It seems like he has a recruiting advantage because of his individual record/history. If he doesn't win a national championship soon that advantage will go away.



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    Re: ISU Coaching Staff

    Look -- I wish we'd dominated more this year -- and last year for that matter (what was it -- 6 seconds of riding time?). I don't know the individual wrestlers and don't presume to individually state their potentials compared to where they are at now.

    I think I just have the perspective of lower general expecations, and I try to take joy in having a top 5 (top 3, 2?) wrestling program to watch and cheer for. My current self will be sad if the day ever comes where my future self is ever frustrated with being a top 5 program -- and "in the hunt" for a NC; or if my future self expects (though I can hope) to be #1 and win a NC.

    That doesn't mean I'm not disappointed -- even a tad frustrated -- with the number of almosts we've had this season (and last), but I try to remember the individual accomplishments and over achieving along the way. A NC wasn't ever really likely this year -- 2nd place was my best realistic hope -- but the tournament is crazy -- like any other tournament is -- and I had hope after day 1. Early problems today don't mean we're out of it -- and we're better in the upper weights.


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    I think we have to say he's pretty much the best coach (results wise) we got.

    Not sure there's even an arguement there. Maybe CJ, since she's taken the volleyball team to heights never seen before. But Cael has put more hardware in the case.

    I know we have a very proud tradition in wrestling. But I think 3 for 3 in conference crowns is pretty good and it's rather dangerous for ISU fans to start "expecting" national titles.



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    Re: ISU Coaching Staff

    I think he turns 30 later this year.



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    Re: ISU Coaching Staff

    I think Cael needs to reconsider his assistant coaching staff primarily those who work with the lower weights. I'd even go so far as to say that perhaps his brother as top associate was not a great choice.



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    Re: ISU Coaching Staff

    He's actually doing much better than Bobby Douglas.



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    Re: ISU Coaching Staff

    Anyone who thinks that Cael should be fired is stupid. How many Big12 titles did we win in the 10 years before Cael? How many Big12 titles have we won since Cael became the head coach? Does everyone realize that Cael has won 1/5 of all of our conference team titles?

    We haven't won a national title in wrestling in twenty years. We have a history, but it isn't that big of a history that we can be cocky about it. I doubt that even OSU would fire a coach for winning three conference titles but no national championships in three years.

    Be real. For a reality check, check this site: Iowa State Cyclones wrestling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



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    Re: ISU Coaching Staff

    It is really a sad statement of our society where all we do is judge people on their won / lost record....

    How many wins and losses do each of you have........?



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    Re: ISU Coaching Staff

    This thread will just be 180 out from the way are guys do tonight.

    None of the Cael talk came up when ISU was kicking butt the first day, then we had that less than impressive showing from our light-weights this morning, and bam - poor coaching posts. Then it went away again as the tide turned in our favor over the noon hour. (Onryactor where are you now?)



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    Re: ISU Coaching Staff

    Quote Originally Posted by coachdags View Post
    It is really a sad statement of our society where all we do is judge people on their won / lost record....

    How many wins and losses do each of you have........?
    I think most people are judged by wins and losses.

    How long does a car salesman last if he sells no cars, but is a nice guy?

    How do you view a man that has lost his marriage by cheating on his wife?

    Wins and losses are real life.

    That said--Cael is winning. He is the coach for a long time at ISU if it is what he wants to do. I can agree with the comments about the lighter weights--that's our weakness right now. Talk of Cael not coming through is a joke. No one has done what he's done at ISU in 20+ years.



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    Re: ISU Coaching Staff

    And we are still in good position to win the national title. We are second behind Ohio State, who we will likely pass tonight. If I recall, Iowa is #4 in team standings right now. Why are we even discussing this, I'm out of here.



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    Re: ISU Coaching Staff

    This is purely my speculation and opinion... In our threads people are asking questions about the rules and scoring of wrestling and see individual wrestlers more as a team or group unit than individual wrestlers. Over at Iowas board people are offering opinions and strategy. Some of the posts on here are like my mom offering a suggestion about computers. Kind of embarassing.

    I think our fans need to do a better job understanding the sport. Those guys aren't out there working because of the team or because of Cael. They are working for themselves. They want to finish the best they can as an individual and team accomplishment is a distant second. They have no control over who or how their teammates wrestle and their teammates can't help them at all when they are out on the mat. Our team is more like 10 little teams more than 1 team unit.

    Do some research before you start offering opinions about coaches/performances, etc.. You will find that wrestling is a very interesting and enjoyable sport and ISU is poised to be very successful.


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    Re: ISU Coaching Staff

    I would say that Cael (and his staff) is doing OK...esp since I really dont have that high an expectation for wrestling in the first place!!!

    The worst thing that ever happened to isu wrestling was when the Great Dan Gable walked out of Ames and went to iowa city....

    I just refuse to get serious about wrestling until Cael can beat the hawks in a dual meet!!!!



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