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    Goals for MBB program-long term

    I was curious what people had as a goal for our MBB program in terms of year in year out production.

    Does anyone truely think ISU can be a basketball powerhouse with consistant Elite Eight teams with some Final 4 or National Champ teams mixed in?

    For arguement sake, in the average 10 years span, how many tourney teams, Sweet 16, EE and FF teams and NC if you want to throw those in?



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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    20 wins overall, 9 in the Big XII. If they did this, we would have a realistic shot at the NCAA every year.



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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    how many tourney teams, Sweet 16, EE and FF teams and NC if you want to throw those in?

    Tourney Teams - 7
    Sweet 16 - 2
    EE - 1
    FF - 0
    NC - 0


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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    20 wins overall, 9 in the Big XII. If they did this, we would have a realistic shot at the NCAA every year.
    I agree that those numbers would get in most years, but do you expect that EVERY year, what would be acceptable down years?



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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    I'd like to see some consistency in performance. Consistent winning records. Somewhat consistenly making the dance (say 3 out of 4 years on average).

    Being relevant to the conference championship race come March and taking a crown every few years, say on average 5-7. Same holds with the conference tourney. Consistently making the 2nd round in some form.

    As for NCAA's, I don't think it's out of line to hope for a Sweet 16 team out of every class - meaning every 4 years or so. Beyond that, I have no expectations for anything more on any regular basis.

    I don't think it's completely out of line to kind of expect what we saw out of the 8 or so years Floyd/LE were here. Good conference play. A few conference crowns, both regular season and touney. A few quality NCAA squads (4 or 5 ?), two Sweet 16 teams and the one very special season. Of course there were the couple down years where we didn't show up on any radar. I'd like to avoid the extreme lows - but I think that isn't really implausible or asking too much.


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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    I think that 20+ wins, a top 25 ranking, and a top 5 finish in the Big 12 would be a great goal if we could achieve it consistently. Make NCAA tourney more years than not and atleast make the NIT. Obviously, I'd love to see us do better than that. I think if McD is the coach we think he is, this is an attainable goal and I think our fan base would be very happy with this.



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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    I think the tourny every 3 out of years 4 years or 2-4 years. The NIT the other years. Sometimes we probably will have a fail year.



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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    I think expecting Elite 8, Final 4, and NC teams is a pipe dream, but we should at least be finishing in the top half of the Big 12 and making it to the big dance year in and year out.

    Finishing in the basement of the conference with .500 records is not acceptable.



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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    Tim Floyd, Larry E, and Wayne Morgan type on-court success is all I need to keep me happy.



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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    Quote Originally Posted by CysDoc View Post
    I was curious what people had as a goal for our MBB program in terms of year in year out production.

    Does anyone truely think ISU can be a basketball powerhouse with consistant Elite Eight teams with some Final 4 or National Champ teams mixed in?

    For arguement sake, in the average 10 years span, how many tourney teams, Sweet 16, EE and FF teams and NC if you want to throw those in?
    I would be very happy if we could win 20+ games, finish in the top half of the conference, get to the 2nd round of the tournement (one of those years advance further) 3 years out of every 4.



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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    Quote Originally Posted by AustinCyclone View Post
    I think expecting Elite 8, Final 4, and NC teams is a pipe dream, but we should at least be finishing in the top half of the Big 12 and making it to the big dance year in and year out.

    Finishing in the basement of the conference with .500 records is not acceptable.
    I don't think expecting Elite 8 or Final 4 on occasion, once in every 12-16 years or 1 in every 4 classes roughly is a pipe dream. I think if we attain consistant winning that leads to better players=higher expectations.



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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    Quote Originally Posted by isunorth View Post
    I think that 20+ wins, a top 25 ranking, and a top 5 finish in the Big 12 would be a great goal if we could achieve it consistently. Make NCAA tourney more years than not and atleast make the NIT. Obviously, I'd love to see us do better than that. I think if McD is the coach we think he is, this is an attainable goal and I think our fan base would be very happy with this.

    McD has proven exactly what type of coach he is.....and that will not get us to any of these goals.



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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    Quote Originally Posted by AustinCyclone View Post
    McD has proven exactly what type of coach he is.....and that will not get us to any of these goals.
    Let me rephrase...the type of coach we hope he is or the type of coach we've been told he is.



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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    Quote Originally Posted by AustinCyclone View Post
    McD has proven exactly what type of coach he is.....and that will not get us to any of these goals.
    I'll take that bet...Do people seriously think money drives him or that he enjoys getting his *** kicked?



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    Re: Goals for MBB program-long term

    Quote Originally Posted by kg-cyclone View Post
    I'll take that bet...Do people seriously think money drives him or that he enjoys getting his *** kicked?
    Nope, I just think that he bit off more than he can chew. The Big 12 is not the Valley.



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