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    Tim Floyd was 69-29 after 3 years with 3 NCAA Tournament Births including 2 second rounds and one sweet 16, Larry Eustachy was 72-26 after 3 years with 2 Big 12 Championships including A Elite 8 finish with 2 NCAA tournaments, Wayne Morgan was 55-39 after 3 years including a final 4 appearance in NIT and a 2nd round appearance in the NCAA Tournament., and Greg McDermott is 44-50 so far after 3 years with no post season appearances. Wayne Morgan was fired because his record was not good enough and that the Mens basketball program was supposed to be a elite program. GMACC gets a nine year contract. This does not add up. I think Pollard is going to run our program in the ground. The bottom line in this business is wins and losses.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mauiclone View Post
    Tim Floyd was 69-29 after 3 years with 3 NCAA Tournament Births including 2 second rounds and one sweet 16, Larry Eustachy was 72-26 after 3 years with 2 Big 12 Championships including A Elite 8 finish with 2 NCAA tournaments, Wayne Morgan was 55-39 after 3 years including a final 4 appearance in NIT and a 2nd round appearance in the NCAA Tournament., and Greg McDermott is 44-50 so far after 3 years with no post season appearances. Wayne Morgan was fired because his record was not good enough and that the Mens basketball program was supposed to be a elite program. GMACC gets a nine year contract. This does not add up. I think Pollard is going to run our program in the ground. The bottom line in this business is wins and losses.
    Imagine that...a fire McDermott thread.



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    Re: Mens Basketball Records

    LOL...



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    Re: Mens Basketball Records

    2015 is a long ways away. Sucks to be you



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    Some of you people must feel like you'll die if you go a day without whining. Criminy, we won on Senior Day with all the seniors playing as key contributors. Give it up and enjoy the day.


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    Re: Mens Basketball Records

    Fred Hoiberg

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    These players were left for Floyd and LE. What was McDermott left with

    I know you have an agenda but use the whole story next time when making a point



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    Maybe we should retitle this "The Whine Experience."


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    Re: Mens Basketball Records

    The difference is that Floyd,Eustachy and Morgan didn't have the max exodus of players that McDermott had. Now I don't know if that was his fault or not but it's going to be interesting seeing this off season if Brackins stays and who else G Mac can get in to Ames in the 2010-11 season



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    Re: Mens Basketball Records

    Quote Originally Posted by mauiclone View Post
    Tim Floyd was 69-29 after 3 years with 3 NCAA Tournament Births including 2 second rounds and one sweet 16,
    Good coach.
    Quote Originally Posted by mauiclone View Post
    Larry Eustachy was 72-26 after 3 years with 2 Big 12 Championships including A Elite 8 finish with 2 NCAA tournaments,
    Hmmm...these guys named Tinsley and Fizer come to mind? What did he do without them again?

    Quote Originally Posted by mauiclone View Post
    Wayne Morgan was 55-39 after 3 years including a final 4 appearance in NIT and a 2nd round appearance in the NCAA Tournament.,
    Hmm...and now we're satisfied with an underachieving NIT team and a guy that could recruit very well, but couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag?

    Quote Originally Posted by mauiclone View Post
    and Greg McDermott is 44-50 so far after 3 years with no post season appearances.
    and has a potentially middle of the pack Big XII team next season if Brackins sticks around.

    Quote Originally Posted by mauiclone View Post
    Wayne Morgan was fired because his record was not good enough and that the Mens basketball program was supposed to be a elite program. GMACC gets a nine year contract. This does not add up.
    Are you Jamie Pollard? Do you know definitively why Wayne was fired? Didn't think so.

    Quote Originally Posted by mauiclone View Post
    I think Pollard is going to run our program in the ground.
    Yep, he hates the Cyclones so he's trying his best to ruin Iowa State athletics.
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    The bottom line in this business is wins and losses.
    Ask Florida State about that.

    Thanks! I'm here all week.



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    Quote Originally Posted by hurdleisu24 View Post
    The difference is that Floyd,Eustachy and Morgan didn't have the max exodus of players that McDermott had. Now I don't know if that was his fault or not but it's going to be interesting seeing this off season if Brackins stays and who else G Mac can get in to Ames in the 2010-11 season
    I agree - player retention is a huge concern regarding GMac. Remember, he brought in six players his first year - all six have left prior to their eligibility expiring...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    I agree - player retention is a huge concern regarding GMac. Remember, he brought in six players his first year - all six have left prior to their eligibility expiring...
    Someone pointed out that the spring recruits, i.e. the ones where he had to take whoever he could get in order to fill out a roster, have left.

    On the other hand, the fall recruits, with the long-term relationships he has built, have stayed and been productive, developing players.

    I think retention is largely a result of the difficulty in filling out the roster when he came aboard.


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    Re: Mens Basketball Records

    There will be at least one other defection this off season from the sounds of it. Dunson, Brister, Vette, Taylor, McCintosh, Johnson, Johnson, and Marsden all left ISU without fulfilling their eligibility. Yes, Taylor is an idiot and did it to himself but that is 8 guys in 3 years that didn't want to play (or got kicked off) for McDermott. Throw in Brackins possibly leaving and the rumor of Mann transferring to D-II then that would make 10 in three years. If that rate kept up he would lose 30 guys in his 9 year contract. Kind of alarming



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    Quote Originally Posted by arganbright2 View Post
    There will be at least one other defection this off season from the sounds of it. Dunson, Brister, Vette, Taylor, McCintosh, Johnson, Johnson, and Marsden all left ISU without fulfilling their eligibility. Yes, Taylor is an idiot and did it to himself but that is 8 guys in 3 years that didn't want to play (or got kicked off) for McDermott. Throw in Brackins possibly leaving and the rumor of Mann transferring to D-II then that would make 10 in three years. If that rate kept up he would lose 30 guys in his 9 year contract. Kind of alarming
    Vette got homesick.
    Taylor gets kicked out.
    Mcintosh goes to a smaller school.
    Wesley is an idiot.
    Marsden---I don't know.
    Brister has a family thing.
    Cory Johnson wanted playing time.

    If Mann leaves, that would be for playing time, too, that apparently wouldn't be happening here (if that's the choice he makes).

    Not real alarming, really.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Wesley is an idiot.



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    Quote Originally Posted by arganbright2 View Post
    There will be at least one other defection this off season from the sounds of it. Dunson, Brister, Vette, Taylor, McCintosh, Johnson, Johnson, and Marsden all left ISU without fulfilling their eligibility. Yes, Taylor is an idiot and did it to himself but that is 8 guys in 3 years that didn't want to play (or got kicked off) for McDermott. Throw in Brackins possibly leaving and the rumor of Mann transferring to D-II then that would make 10 in three years. If that rate kept up he would lose 30 guys in his 9 year contract. Kind of alarming
    I know people disagree, but I honestly think this has been a string of bad luck for Mac. I know that Mac had nothing to do with Vette, Brister, and Taylor leaving...they had extraneous issues to deal with that they would have had with any coach there. I suspect the same with Wes, although don't know that for sure. That's probably the case with Dunson, as he pointed to academics as the reason he was leaving.

    I know the turnover is bad, but I see it kind of like I see all the banked in free throws other teams have had against us...it's a bad run of luck with unique situations that will hopefully end now.


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