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    Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    Saw this on a KU board and thought would generate some interesting discussion.

    Here is my shot at it based on the definition of success as a coach being both a good caoch and a good recruiter.

    1. Self - Obviously a good recruiter and has done wonders with what is essentially a brand new team this year.
    2. Capel - OU much improved over last year
    3. Barnes - Recruits well, and has had coaching success.
    4. Anderson - Has "his team" in place now and they seem to be gelling.
    5. Martin - Surprising the B12 by not falling on his face after Beasley and Walker left.
    6. Sadler - Appears to be an excellent coach, but can he recruit?
    7. Ford - Jury is still out, but OK so far.
    8. McDermott - B to B- as a recruiter, coaching C to C+
    9. Turgeon - A&M has athletes, but his recruiting abilities remain to be seen. Coaching is a big ?
    10. Bzdelik - Colorado showing sreaks of competitiveness. Coaching B to B+, but can he recruit?
    11. Drew - Baylor in a freefall despite having quality experienced players. Coach has to bear responsibility.
    12. Knight - Team has fallen far in a short time under Knight.



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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    I would put Turgeon and Drew ahead of Greg. Baylor is bad this year, but look how far Drew has taken them. They went from the verge of death penalty to tournament in just a couple of years. Turgeon is beating McDermott, so hard to say McD's a better coach. I think he's better than Bzdelik (not by much) and Knight (clearly).


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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    Yeah, I don't know how you can rank Turgeon and Drew below McD and Sadler.


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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    8. McDermott - B to B- as a recruiter, coaching C to C+

    Besides Brackins what have you seen out of Greg to consider him a better recruiter than coach?



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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    Agree with previous posters about putting GMac too high.
    Also, Bill Self has to be in the mix for national coach of the year. He lost, what, 83% of his scoring and same for rebounding? I don't care how much talent you have, to come back with a gritty, hard-working team that's winning at the same clip says tons about him...



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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    1. Self (not even close)
    2. Capel
    3. Anderson
    4. Sadler
    5. Ford
    6. Barnes (best at doing nothing with something)
    7. Martin
    8. Bzdelik
    9. Turgeon
    10. McDermott
    11. Drew (would be 3rd if it was just for recruiting)
    12. Knight



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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    Quote Originally Posted by GeronimusClone View Post
    Yeah, I don't know how you can rank Turgeon and Drew below McD and Sadler.
    Both Turgeon and Drew are average coaches at best. Drew appears to be losing that team more and more everyday. Turgeon is getting by with what Billy G left him as far as momentum goes but I bet A&M is back to being a bottom team pretty quickly



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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    1. Self
    2. Capel
    3. Anderson
    4. Barnes
    5. Martin
    6. Ford
    7. Turgeon
    8. Sadler
    9. McDermott
    10. Bzdelik
    11. Drew
    12. Knight



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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    Scout.com: Rank the coaches in the Big XII

    Here's the KU thread if anybody cares. There is some Jayhawk fan that really likes McD though.



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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    I'm loving the guy in that thread that ranks "Jeff McDermot" 11th.


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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    Anderson right behind self....look at what he's done in a short amount of time.


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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    Quote Originally Posted by isufan View Post
    1. Self
    2. Capel
    3. Anderson
    4. Barnes
    5. Martin
    6. Ford
    7. Turgeon
    8. Sadler
    9. McDermott
    10. Bzdelik
    11. Drew
    12. Knight
    This would be mine as well...not sure how anyone can put Bzdelik very high, he hasn't done anything at CU except finishing 12th



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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    You can't exclude recruiting from coaching and Drew went to the tournament last year so he has to be ahead of McDermott.



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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    Sadler has proven he is a good coach this year. Unfortunately, he will never be any higher than 8th on my list until he shows he can recruit.



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    Re: Rank the Big 12 BB Coaches

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    You can't exclude recruiting from coaching and Drew went to the tournament last year so he has to be ahead of McDermott.
    But McDermott beat Drew this year

    Seriously though, with what Drew is doing this year with a team loaded with talent, I think it is safe to say that Greg is the better coach. Drew can recruit but if you can't finish better than 8th in an average conference w/ as much returning talent as he has, than your coaching is poor



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