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    Over signing football players

    I seem to remember a lot of people asking how can Ole Miss get away with a 37 player recruiting class. Well it seems that someone in the media took notice and wrote this.

    Ole Miss, UNC exemplify growing oversigning trend - The Bonus - SI.com

    I for one find the practice a little risky for a program. If you keep pulling the rug out from under players who qualify and ask them to greyshirt it could earn the coach a poor reputation among potential recruits.



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    Re: Over signing football players

    Teams in the confederacy don't follow rules...



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    Re: Over signing football players

    Question comes to mind that in order to maintain 85 schollies at I-State, how many are we handing out to walkons?

    Other schools like UNC are not utilizing walkons but signing and filling their roster to fullest extent of 85.


    So it may come down to All Signed Schools versus Walk-On Schools to reach 85.


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    Re: Over signing football players

    If the NCAA cared about parity (like the NFL does)...they would limit each school to 65 scholarships...or even fewer! Think how that would change the game!



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    Re: Over signing football players

    Does anyone know if we have schools oversigning in the Big 12 like the SEC?


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    Re: Over signing football players

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Does anyone know if we have schools oversigning in the Big 12 like the SEC?
    Iowa State basketball in 2010?



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    Re: Over signing football players

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    Iowa State basketball in 2010?
    +1 to you--spit take.



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    Re: Over signing football players

    Over signing is a despicable practice and it should quite frankly be made a violation of NCAA rules. However, I don’t see it going away. I think a good strategy for a school like ISU would be to leave a couple of open slots each year and go after a few guys from elite programs that were victims of over signing. K-State is not an elite program but I think this is how we got Kennard Banks.



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    Very interesting read, especially the example cited on Nick Saban. I'm impressed that the Alabama football department has such a strong grasp of where each scholarship player and signee is, such that they can predict the future. I wonder how they knew they'd get two scholarship players arrested for dealing drugs so as to free up scholies for the over-signed newbies? Coincidence or conspiracy?


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    Re: Over signing football players

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Does anyone know if we have schools oversigning in the Big 12 like the SEC?
    McCarney oversigned a few times. I remember a class of around 30.

    I really hope that Nutt and Ole Miss get caught in a bind here. Unfortunately, the only drawback to oversigning is bad press. The worst thing that can usually happen is a mad HS coach and a mad family. Nutt doesn't care, he'll just run a few guys off. I'd like to see the NCAA limit the number of COI's that you can accept to 30. That seems fair. 37 or 40 is way too many.


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    Re: Over signing football players

    Mississippi signee Jamar Hornsby charged with felony assault - ESPN

    It is starting to make more sense why Ole Miss signed so many guys, probably not sure how many can make it to campus. This was really taking a chance on a guy, the whole using a credit card of a classmate that had been dead for 6 months already is just a bit disturbing.


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    Re: Over signing football players

    1 down, 11 to go for Houston...we should keep track of this and see how is shakes out.



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    Re: Over signing football players

    When Bama oversigned last year someone asked Saben about the 85 number and he said that by the begining of school it would work itself out as some kids won't come back to school, others won't go out since they won't play, some freshmen may not qualify



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