Cardinals depth chart...
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 18
  1. #1
    Addict Achievements:
    VeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    Dave19642006's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    5,853
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Cardinals depth chart...

    Starting Lineup
    RF Skip Schumaker: put together a solid season as a first-time starter in the majors, posting a .302 BA, .359 OBP, 8 HR, and 8 SB; could also move to 2B, which would open up a spot for top prospect Colby Rasmus
    CF Rick Ankiel: showed big-time power in hitting 25 HR's in 413 AB's; could be traded or moved to a corner OF spot to accommodate team's top prospect, Rasmus, whenever he is ready
    1B Albert Pujols: arguably the best hitter in the majors owns two NL MVP awards and 319 HR's at age 29
    LF Ryan Ludwick: has hit 51 HR's and knocked in 165 runs in 841 AB's in two seasons with the Cards
    SS Khalil Greene: reliable defender struggled offensively in '08 (.213 BA, 10 HR, 22 BB, 100 K) but he averaged 18 HR's, 72 RBI's, and a .256 BA over the previous four seasons
    3B David Freese: 26 year-old had a big season in AAA (.306 BA, 26 HR, 91 RBI) but is stuck behind Troy Glaus and the team's #2 prospect, Brett Wallace, is also a 3B; However, he'll get a shot to at least start the season in St. Louis with Glaus on the DL
    C Yadier Molina: 2008 gold glove winner can also hit (.304 BA, 7 HR, 56 RBI)
    2B Brendan Ryan: 26 year-old played 2B, SS, 3B, and OF for the Cards in '08 while hitting .244 with 7 SB's; likely starter at 2B unless the Cards sign Orlando Hudson or if Rasmus proves he's ready, which could push Schumaker to 2B

    Bench
    C Jason LaRue: will continue to be Molina's backup after a season in which he hit just .213 but threw out 8-of-21 attempted base stealers
    IF Joe Thurston: signed to a minor-league deal after hitting .315 with 11 HR's and 19 SB's in AAA Pawtucket, he'll also be in the mix for the starting 2B job
    UTL Joe Mather: played all 3 OF positions in '08 as well as a few games at 1B and 3B; hit 8 HR's in 133 AB's for the Cards in '08 and 17 HR's in 211 AB's in AAA
    OF Chris Duncan: looks like the odd man out in a crowded OF after hitting just 6 HR's in 222 AB's in '08
    IF Brian Barden: hit .285 with 9 HR's in AAA Memphis in 2008 and was 2-for-9 after a late-season call up

    Disabled List
    3B Troy Glaus: caught fire to finish the season with 27 HR's after hitting only 3 HR's in April and May; will start the season on the DL after shoulder surgery

    Starting Rotation
    RHP Adam Wainwright: 27 year-old was 11-3 with a 3.20 ERA in 20 starts in 2008
    RHP Kyle Lohse: had his best season in 2008 with a 15-6 record and 3.78 ERA, his first sub-4.00 ERA in his 8-year ML career
    RHP Todd Wellemeyer: another guy that made pitching coach Dave Duncan look like a genius, winning 13 games and posting a 3.71 ERA in his first full season after being converted to a starter
    RHP Joel Pineiro: had a 6.05 ERA in the 2nd half of '08 while opponents batted .317 against him
    RHP Brad Thompson: swingman could also move to the bullpen if Chris Carpenter makes a healthy comeback to the rotation

    Bullpen
    RHP Chris Perez: it appears as though the Cards will try to fill the closer role internally and Perez will likely get a shot after saving 7 games and posting a 3.46 ERA in 2008
    RHP Ryan Franklin: former starter has had success as a reliever with the Cardinals; he'll likely move to a middle-relief role after saving 17 games in '08
    LHP Trever Miller: journeyman posted a 4.15 ERA in 68 games with the AL Champion Rays in 2008
    RHP Kyle McClellan: hadn't pitched above AA before winning a spot in the Cardinal bullpen last season, posting a 4.04 ERA and 2-7 record
    RHP Josh Kinney: was nearly perfect in seven appearances (7 IP, 0 R, 3 H, BB, 8 K) after missing nearly two seasons with elbow injuries
    LHP Royce Ring: former 1st round pick joins his 5th organization and will serve as a lefty specialist
    RHP Jason Motte: converted catcher can throw in the high 90's and could be the closer of the future

    Other Roster Candidates
    RHP Chris Carpenter: 2005 NL Cy Young winner has missed most of the past two seasons with elbow trouble and is preparing for a return to the rotation as early as opening day; LaRussa has mentioned the possibility of using Carpenter as a closer when he returns
    RHP Mitchell Boggs: struggled in 6 mid-season starts (7.55 ERA) for the Cards but was very good in AAA with a 9-3 record and 3.45 ERA
    RHP Jess Todd: team's #4 prospect, according to BA, will battle for the #5 spot in spring training but will probably benefit from spending at least a half-season in AAA
    RHP Clayton Mortensen: team's #6 prospect, according to BA, will also get a look in spring training before likely starting the season in AAA
    RHP P.J. Walters: 23 year-old was 9-4 with a 4.87 ERA in AAA but had 122 K's in 122 IP
    LHP Charlie Manning: limited lefties to a .203 BA in 2008 while pitching for the Nationals
    OF Colby Rasmus: team's top prospect is a five-tool player that will likely force his way onto the roster at some point in 2009
    OF Brian Barton: rule V pick in 2008 held his own in his rookie season, batting .268 with a .354 OBP in 153 AB's
    IF Jarrett Hoffpauir: 25 year-old second baseman hit .273 with a .352 OBP and 31 doubles in AAA last season



  2. #2
    Addict
    Points: 74,316, Level: 84
    Level completed: 69%, Points required for next Level: 534
    Overall activity: 27.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    erikbj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    hiawatha, ia
    Posts
    5,672
    Points
    74,316
    Level
    84
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 347
    Given: 87

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    looks like a 3rd place team unfortunately.



  3. #3
    Addict
    Points: 95,449, Level: 96
    Level completed: 20%, Points required for next Level: 1,601
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    tejasclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    5,929
    Points
    95,449
    Level
    96
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 176
    Given: 122

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    Schumaker has been taking reps at 2B in spring training. He has always been an outfielder in the pros but I believe he was drafted as a SS.

    If Carpenter is healthy, a starting 4 of Carpenter, Wainwright, Lohse, and Wellemeyer would be pretty good. We badly need another real starter. Hopefully the 5th starter turns out to be McClellan.

    I thought you liked bagging on the Cards, Dave.



  4. #4
    Starter
    Points: 19,682, Level: 42
    Level completed: 82%, Points required for next Level: 168
    Overall activity: 24.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Pants-free Avenue
    Posts
    806
    Points
    19,682
    Level
    42
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    As of right now, Skip is going to be starting at 2B, Mather at 3B, and Rasmus out in LF. At least that is the lineup TLR is going with in the first spring game tomorrow and hopefully how he'll open up the season.


    ...Straight going donkey...

  5. #5
    Addict
    Points: 69,389, Level: 81
    Level completed: 79%, Points required for next Level: 361
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    TarHeelHawk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    W. Des Moines
    Posts
    8,615
    Points
    69,389
    Level
    81
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    Quote Originally Posted by cardinal&gold View Post
    Schumaker has been taking reps at 2B in spring training. He has always been an outfielder in the pros but I believe he was drafted as a SS.

    If Carpenter is healthy, a starting 4 of Carpenter, Wainwright, Lohse, and Wellemeyer would be pretty good. We badly need another real starter. Hopefully the 5th starter turns out to be McClellan.

    I thought you liked bagging on the Cards, Dave.
    You don't really believe this, do you? You may end up being right, but there isn't anyone there that intimidates anyone. Carpenter, maybe, but you have to wonder how effective he'll be after 1 1/2 years away from the game. Hey who knows, it wouldn't be the first time Dave Duncan has spun straw into gold.



  6. #6
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 93,594, Level: 95
    Level completed: 24%, Points required for next Level: 1,456
    Overall activity: 17.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    Incyte's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    4,039
    Points
    93,594
    Level
    95
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 373
    Given: 64

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    That lineup would be much better if there was a bigger bat behind Pujols. Ludwig has done very well but he doesn't strike fear into pitchers seeing him on deck.


    “Science investigates; religion interprets. Science gives man knowledge, which is power; religion gives man wisdom, which is control. Science deals mainly with facts; religion deals mainly with values. The two are not rivals. They are complementary.”

    Martin Luther King Jr.

  7. #7
    Starter
    Points: 19,682, Level: 42
    Level completed: 82%, Points required for next Level: 168
    Overall activity: 24.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Pants-free Avenue
    Posts
    806
    Points
    19,682
    Level
    42
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    Quote Originally Posted by TarHeelHawk View Post
    You don't really believe this, do you? You may end up being right, but there isn't anyone there that intimidates anyone. Carpenter, maybe, but you have to wonder how effective he'll be after 1 1/2 years away from the game. Hey who knows, it wouldn't be the first time Dave Duncan has spun straw into gold.
    Wainright, Lohse and Wellemyer all had ERAs under 4 last year. Not many teams in the NL have that. I think those 3 are very solid and definitely above average.


    ...Straight going donkey...

  8. #8
    Addict
    Points: 95,449, Level: 96
    Level completed: 20%, Points required for next Level: 1,601
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    tejasclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    5,929
    Points
    95,449
    Level
    96
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 176
    Given: 122

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    Quote Originally Posted by TarHeelHawk View Post
    You don't really believe this, do you? You may end up being right, but there isn't anyone there that intimidates anyone. Carpenter, maybe, but you have to wonder how effective he'll be after 1 1/2 years away from the game. Hey who knows, it wouldn't be the first time Dave Duncan has spun straw into gold.
    I said it would be pretty good, not intimidating. Wainwright, Lohse, and Wellemeyer all had pretty solid years last year. They did not intimidate other teams but they usually kept the Cards in the game until the bullpen gave it up. Carpenter at his prime (2005 - 22 wins, Cy Young) is lethal, but I would settle for solid (10+ wins) out of him this year.



  9. #9
    Speechless
    Points: 177,623, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    hurdleisu24's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    16,140
    Points
    177,623
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2
    Given: 8

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    Be interesting to see what they get from Carpenter if anything at all



  10. #10
    Pro
    Points: 47,330, Level: 67
    Level completed: 28%, Points required for next Level: 1,020
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Cy Hard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Urbandale
    Posts
    2,638
    Points
    47,330
    Level
    67
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 218
    Given: 70

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    I base the whole season off of Carp being more like a Cy Young contender than a finished man, which is why I'm very high on this team. I think the lay off will actually be very good for him. He was laid up a while prior to being a Card, which is how we got him in the first place.


    Cyclone
    Iowa State became the Cyclones after they leveled Northwestern in 1895. As the Chicago Tribune (9/29/1895) noted:
    'Struck by a Cyclone
    It Comes from Iowa and Devastates Evanston Town'

  11. #11
    Addict Achievements:
    VeteranCreated Album pictures50000 Experience Points
    Dave19642006's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    5,853
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    See a Cubs fan posting something for the Cardinals without one bad thing to say.... you are welcomed if any other teams let me know I will post them also



  12. #12
    Bench Warmer
    Points: 5,768, Level: 22
    Level completed: 44%, Points required for next Level: 282
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points
    cyclonefreak77's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Ames
    Posts
    310
    Points
    5,768
    Level
    22
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    If Carpenter can come back, then we are looking pretty good. If not, then we are in rough shape



  13. #13
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 42,884, Level: 63
    Level completed: 95%, Points required for next Level: 66
    Overall activity: 18.0%
    Achievements:
    VeteranCreated Album pictures25000 Experience Points
    Final42b's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Ames
    Posts
    4,095
    Points
    42,884
    Level
    63
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 42
    Given: 37

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    Ludwick plays right and schumaker plays left. And if everything goes to plan Skip will play alot at 2nd with Rasmus getting time somewhere in the outfield.



  14. #14
    Starter
    Points: 11,543, Level: 32
    Level completed: 42%, Points required for next Level: 407
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran10000 Experience Points
    Juggercy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Ames, IA
    Posts
    949
    Points
    11,543
    Level
    32
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    I just hope we see some strong closing this season. I'm glad that the reign of terror that is izzy is no longer there to blow games in the 9th. Overall i think we have a pretty good team though minus not having glaus on 3rd base for awhile kinda sucks.




  15. #15
    All-Star
    Points: 14,929, Level: 37
    Level completed: 10%, Points required for next Level: 721
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    mramseyISU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Waterloo, IA
    Posts
    1,029
    Points
    14,929
    Level
    37
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 23
    Given: 2

    Re: Cardinals depth chart...

    That pitching staff is really thin. Wainwright and Carp are the only two on there I'd call good pitchers. Then again Dave Duncan is a master turd polisher when it comes to pitchers.


    Last edited by mramseyISU; 02-25-2009 at 09:51 PM.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: Mediacom 22
  • HOOPS: Iowa State vs. Drake
  • December 20, 2014
  • 04:00 PM