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    Rank the Hires by JP administration/era

    For me the ranking goes:

    1. Christy Johnson (Women's VB) - a shocking hire
    2. Lifetime Contract for Bill F (Women's BB) - no brainer
    3. Cael Sanderson (Wrestling) - another no brainer
    4. Gene Chizik (Football) - all criticism aside
    5. Wally Burnham (FB DC) - I rank him higher than PR because of his proven success, he could actually become a D1 football coach somewhere with his resume.
    6. Paul Rhoads (Football) - a true Cyclone
    7. Tom Herman (FB OC) - I don't know how we got an OC of his calibre to come to Iowa State
    8. Greg McD (Mens BB) - It seemed like a good hire at the time, not sure how he will stick around with another mediocre season next year.


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    Re: Rank the Hires by JP administration

    we count assistant coaches as JP hires now?



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    Re: Rank the Hires by JP administration

    Quote Originally Posted by dinger View Post
    we count assistant coaches as JP hires now?
    We should. Its all in JP's Administration. Not by Jp but during his era.


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    Re: Rank the Hires by JP administration/era

    I don't think JP hired Johnson, but he did hire the new soccer and track coaches...



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    Re: Rank the Hires by JP administration/era

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    I don't think JP hired Johnson, but he did hire the new soccer and track coaches...

    Well, JP took credit for it. I think he did the hire. Can someone check?


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    Re: Rank the Hires by JP administration/era

    Considering your avatar, I find it amusing that you rank Chizik 4th.


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    Re: Rank the Hires by JP administration/era

    i thought he hired Christy as well. if nothing else he just gave her that great extension. what about the new softball coach...that team looks to be turning it around.



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    Re: Rank the Hires by JP administration/era

    Quote Originally Posted by dinger View Post
    i thought he hired Christy as well. if nothing else he just gave her that great extension. what about the new softball coach...that team looks to be turning it around.
    Doesn't matter - the less credit I have to give BVDV on a daily basis the much happier my life is...


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Doesn't matter - the less credit I have to give BVDV on a daily basis the much happier my life is...

    I am pretty sure Christy was hired by JP. I am in the same boat. I can't stand that BVDVDVBDV guy. He was the worst AD in ISU history.


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    Re: Rank the Hires by JP administration/era

    At the time of the hire, Chizik was widely regarded as a grand-slam hire. I can't fault JP for that at all, and it would be #1 on my list, especially because football is the motor that makes any athletic department run.



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    Re: Rank the Hires by JP administration/era

    Bruce hired Christy...not JP.



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    Re: Rank the Hires by JP administration/era

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernClone06 View Post
    Considering your avatar, I find it amusing that you rank Chizik 4th.
    :) As much as I hate that SOB, I honestly think he was the one that could have turned this program around the quickest.


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    Re: Rank the Hires by JP administration/era

    Chizik was a good hire at the time. Turns out to be a Bad Pick, but oh well.

    I would not count assistants. Both of Chizik's Assistants killed him. I did not see anything extra special out of the Bolt or McFarland, so you would have to Rate both of those Hires as F (for Failure).

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    Re: Rank the Hires by JP administration/era

    Quote Originally Posted by kucyclone View Post
    At the time of the hire, Chizik was widely regarded as a grand-slam hire. I can't fault JP for that at all, and it would be #1 on my list, especially because football is the motor that makes any athletic department run.
    JP hired the Chiz knowing full well that he would bolt for a better job. (I think he said as much in a press conference.) He just figured that he would win more than 5 games total before he left. I thought the same way. I knew Chizik would be gone following some success, but the manner in which he left is what irks me, and most others, the most. He didn't bring the success he should have and wasted multiple opportunities in the process.
    All in all, the football program is not in that horrible shape. We now have better coordinators and the talent level is improved from the DMac days.



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    Quote Originally Posted by clonomaniac View Post
    For me the ranking goes:

    1. Christy Johnson (Women's VB) - a shocking hire
    2. Lifetime Contract for Bill F (Women's BB) - no brainer
    3. Cael Sanderson (Wrestling) - another no brainer
    4. Gene Chizik (Football) - all criticism aside
    5. Wally Burnham (FB DC) - I rank him higher than PR because of his proven success, he could actually become a D1 football coach somewhere with his resume.
    6. Paul Rhoads (Football) - a true Cyclone
    7. Tom Herman (FB OC) - I don't know how we got an OC of his calibre to come to Iowa State
    8. Greg McD (Mens BB) - It seemed like a good hire at the time, not sure how he will stick around with another mediocre season next year.
    You need to drop #1 and #2. JP didn't hire them, they were here when he arrived.


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