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    Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    NCAA College Basketball Polls, College Basketball Rankings, NCAA Basketball Polls - ESPN

    The ESPN/ USA Today Coaches Poll moved ISU up only 3 spots to #20 and dropped A&M only 4 spots to #8. I think the AP poll has it right, but I don't understand why the coaches don't give us more love.

    Do you think if we beat Oklahoma tomorrow that we might break the top 20 in the coaches poll next week?



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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    They're probably going off of past behavior. The ladies have played kind of up and down this season.



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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    This poll seems a little ridiculous. We were #22 on Jan. 19. Since then, we've beaten Missouri, Nebraska (on the road), #12 K-State, #4 Texas A&M, and Colorado (on the road) and only moved up 2 spots.



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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    If we lose to OU we'll probably drop out of the top 25.



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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    It's because of the Iowa loss and how bad we got beat by Stanford early in the season. I feel like they've played a lot better since those games, but it's still hurting us in the polls.



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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    I have to say that I'm impressed how the Women's AP is for once the more reasonable of the two polls



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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewo View Post
    They're probably going off of past behavior. The ladies have played kind of up and down this season.
    True, but...

    Since the new year, ISU has played 6 ranked teams and is 4-2 in those contests. A&M has played 5 ranked teams and is 2-3 in those contests.

    ISU's two loses, a 11 point loss at Baylor and a 7 point loss at KState. A&M's three loses, a 12 point loss at Oklahoma, a 3 point lose to Baylor and a 17 point loss at ISU.

    A&M and ISU has the same number of total loses and ISU actually has one less conference loss.

    ISU is ranked 20 and A&M is ranked 8?

    I just don't see how you can make that argument.


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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    Quote Originally Posted by jaretac View Post
    True, but...

    Since the new year, ISU has played 6 ranked teams and is 4-2 in those contests. A&M has played 5 ranked teams and is 2-3 in those contests.

    ISU's two loses, a 11 point loss at Baylor and a 7 point loss at KState. A&M's three loses, a 12 point loss at Oklahoma, a 3 point lose to Baylor and a 17 point loss at ISU.

    A&M and ISU has the same number of total loses and ISU actually has one more conference victory (over A&M).

    ISU is ranked 20 and A&M is ranked 8?

    I just don't see how you can make that argument.

    Not sayin' it's right, I'm just sayin'.



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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    It's because of the Iowa loss and how bad we got beat by Stanford early in the season. I feel like they've played a lot better since those games, but it's still hurting us in the polls.
    The problem is that the poll is supposed to judge the best teams right now, not the best teams for the season...

    ..and even if they do go by the season, A&M has only beat 1 team in the top 20 (#17 Texas), ISU has defeated 3 top 20 teams (#19 Vanderbilt, #12 Kansas St., and #4 A&M) and we will likely knock off at least one more this week.



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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    Quote Originally Posted by jaretac View Post
    The problem is that the poll is supposed to judge the best teams right now, not the best teams for the season...

    ..and even if they do go by the season, A&M has only beat 1 team in the top 20 (#17 Texas), ISU has defeated 3 top 20 teams (#19 Vanderbilt, #12 Kansas St., and #4 A&M) and we will likely knock off at least one more this week.

    What's the key ingredient here? That's right. We're Iowa State. Our mascot should be a shaft.



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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewo View Post
    What's the key ingredient here? That's right. We're Iowa State. Our mascot should be a shaft.
    Actually, our mascot should be a hole. We actually get the shaft--we're not lucky enough to be handing out the shafting.



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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    Quote Originally Posted by cyco2000 View Post
    Actually, our mascot should be a hole. We actually get the shaft--we're not lucky enough to be handing out the shafting.
    rofl!!



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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    Actually, I think the Coaches poll is more stable and that ISU is suffering from the reputation of the Big 12 North. Iowa and Stanford losses are out of the picture. Also, look at the teams above ISU, the only one I think should have fallen was KSU frankly, but most, except TN, won all the games they should have. So, how do you move up when everyone above you also won. Many coaches know it is tough to beat ISU at home. OU and Texas are big statement games this week. It is crucial for ISU to not get blown out at OU, and for us to beat Texas. Then, I think our position in the Coaches poll will solidify. Let's be honest about the A&M win, we played great, but everything, even bad shots fell, and A&M didn't bring their effort. Look how they trounced on Nebraska the game following 86-43.

    Polls are great, I am more concerned with ISU finishing in the top 3 of the Big 12 and getting a great tournament seed.



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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    I think our ranking #20 is about right. We need to show we can beat a top tier team like OU to move up significantly.

    (and no...I don't consider A&M a "top tier" team even though they were ranked 4th)



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    Re: Whats wrong with the coaches poll

    Well, geez we should only move up if we can beat either the number 1 or 2 team in the country. No, number 4 (now 8) shouldn't count.


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