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    Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    Hawaii
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    The Jackrabbit game
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    Oklahoma is borderline.


    It is what it is.



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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    I'm pretty confident that even with Wesley, ISU's record would be the exact same that it is now.


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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    Sour grapes?


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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    I disagree. Those are the only games in which his contribution would have counted for a W. On the flipside, I think we would have gotten crushed by KU while Brackins settles for 16 if he were on the court for that game.



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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    I don't think that anyone would deny the fact that another top player would make a huge difference. However, I like the players that we have and think that they can do better.



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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    Quote Originally Posted by mjones34 View Post
    Sour grapes?

    Which is too bad, for I grew up watching Sherman Douglas and Derrick Coleman tear it up at Syracuse.



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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    Quote Originally Posted by tamjam View Post
    I'm pretty confident that even with Wesley, ISU's record would be the exact same that it is now.
    You would be incorrect. In fact, you would be incredibly incorrect. We would win 20 games this year, easy if we had Wesley. He may even be our best player if he was healthy.

    We beat Hawaii, Iowa, SDSU, Drake, Colorado, K State, and maybe OU if we have Wesley. The guy was good. Really good



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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    I really doubt he was going to pull off those 3 road wins. No one man can destroy the egg both Colorado and ISU historically drop against each other at least once a year.

    This is not the year for road wins, with or without Wesley.

    "The guy WAS good"

    You speak like he is dead. I like that. :)



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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    i'd probably say we'd be in the ncaa tournament with wesley. we could've only lost 1 game out of conference and probably be 4-3 in conference with him right now



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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneYoda View Post
    I really doubt he was going to pull off those 3 road wins. No one man can destroy the egg both Colorado and ISU historically drop against each other at least once a year.

    This is not the year for road wins, with or without Wesley.

    "The guy WAS good"

    You speak like he is dead. I like that. :)
    There is no doubt we beat Hawaii, Colorado, and SDSU if we have Wesley. NO doubt. The guy was an all big 12 player. A healthy Wesley Johnson paired with a Brackins is one of the top pairs in the conference.



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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    There is no doubt we beat Hawaii, Colorado, and SDSU if we have Wesley. NO doubt. The guy was an all big 12 player. A healthy Wesley Johnson paired with a Brackins is one of the top pairs in the conference.
    Yeah, just like last year. How did that turn out?


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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    Quote Originally Posted by tamjam View Post
    Yeah, just like last year. How did that turn out?
    he said HEALTHY wesley johnson and i think craig brackins has improved a littttle bit since last year. omg learn how to read



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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    Quote Originally Posted by tamjam View Post
    Yeah, just like last year. How did that turn out?

    Brackins=Freshman last year. Johnson=Injured last year. What did you expect?



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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneYoda View Post
    Brackins=Freshman last year. Johnson=Injured last year. What did you expect?
    We also had a good player in Jiri last year and an average player in Clark. We don't really have anyone like that on this years team, do we? Garrett and Peterson is about the same, so I think even with wesley, we would be in the exact same spot we are now.


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    Re: Wesley Johnson owes us 4 wins

    Even if we had Wesley, he would probably still "forget his shoes" half the games and would help us to as good a record as we had last year. Which is pretty close to our record this year...



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