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    Manny to the Cards?

    Well if Albert gets his way.

    Albert Pujols wants St. Louis Cardinals to sign Manny Ramirez - ESPN

    Still thinking they need some pitching, but it would be one hell of a middle of a lineup

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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    That would be an awesome middle of the line-up...but who would be our lead off? What about Duncan, Rasmus, and Shumaker? We would almost surely have to trade one-two outfielders.



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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    I am not getting my hopes up.



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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyismydog View Post
    That would be an awesome middle of the line-up...but who would be our lead off? What about Duncan, Rasmus, and Shumaker? We would almost surely have to trade one-two outfielders.
    worry about that after they have the best 3/4 hitters together. maybe the best tandom since Ruth/Gehrig?

    Greene or Kennedy would have to lead off. Or you put Ankiel in the lead off spot.



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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    According to Mozeliak this won't happen

    Mozeliak: Manny won't be a Cardinal | stlcardinals.com: News

    too bad, I could have gotten used to it. I would just like to see some consistent late pitching. Either Motte or Perez closing with Franklin the hold guy would be pretty nice.



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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    This doesn't happen for a couple reasons.

    Reason #1 - Scott Boras is his agent and his players never take "discounts".

    Reason #2 - The cardinals do not have the money to sign Manny. They haven't signed anyone because they are strapped for cash this winter, why would they go out and sign Manny??

    Enjoy 4th place again.



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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    Will also enjoy the old 'one and done' the cubbies will bring this year too.



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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by acrozier22 View Post
    Reason #2 - The cardinals do not have the money to sign Manny. They haven't signed anyone because they are strapped for cash this winter, why would they go out and sign Manny??

    Enjoy 4th place again.
    It's not a money issue, it's the typical tightfisted management. I thougt mozeliak would be different, but it doesn't seem that is the case at all. Just find the cheap substitute (lohse, franklin, lidwick, etal) and make the best of them. As far as 4th, you seriously don't want to go there, from the perennial bottom feeders in chicago. Watch for carpenter and wainwright to be the top 1-2 pair in the NL. Add lohse and if all stay healthy, could be a great summer



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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by cycoticfan View Post
    It's not a money issue, it's the typical tightfisted management. I thougt mozeliak would be different, but it doesn't seem that is the case at all. Just find the cheap substitute (lohse, franklin, lidwick, etal) and make the best of them. As far as 4th, you seriously don't want to go there, from the perennial bottom feeders in chicago. Watch for carpenter and wainwright to be the top 1-2 pair in the NL. Add lohse and if all stay healthy, could be a great summer
    Counting on guys that have been injured the past few years to be the top 1-2 in the NL??? I remember a team that use to think that with their pitchers. Trust me, you don't want to go down that road. Doesn't matter who you start because the cards bullpen is TERRIBLE!

    Should be a fun summer, but not for the cards.



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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by cygator 641 View Post
    Will also enjoy the old 'one and done' the cubbies will bring this year too.
    That may very well be, but it'll be from the couch.



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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by cycoticfan View Post
    It's not a money issue, it's the typical tightfisted management. I thougt mozeliak would be different, but it doesn't seem that is the case at all. Just find the cheap substitute (lohse, franklin, lidwick, etal) and make the best of them. As far as 4th, you seriously don't want to go there, from the perennial bottom feeders in chicago. Watch for carpenter and wainwright to be the top 1-2 pair in the NL. Add lohse and if all stay healthy, could be a great summer
    If you think Carpenter is going to be any great shakes coming off Tommy John, you're mistaken. It's going to take him until at least Memorial Day to round into form - the guy hasn't pitched in what, 2 years?

    Wainright scare nobody. Lohse had a decent year last year, but how many other teams offered him 4 years and 40 million? If the Cardinals 1-3 starters are a guy with a busted arm and 2 guys would be the 4-5 starters on any other team, I like the Cubs chances.



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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    101 years. just a reminder. checkmate.

    Back to the thread - I would love to have Manny, but St. Louis needs smarter spending and it should be in the bullpen, lineup very solid, defense looks even better on paper, and the starting rotation has some potentially dominating guys.


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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    the cards rotation is ****. its looking like the cubs are setting up to get Peavy, and will a loaded lineup, paired with what would be the best rotation in baseball, and an improved bullpen, the cubs will win 100+


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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneman003 View Post
    the cubs will win 100+
    And then quickly find a way to lose in the first round of the playoffs....


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    Re: Manny to the Cards?

    Going back to the original topic, adding Manny would add some runs to the team, but he's a definsive liability. Manny belongs in the AL....


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