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    Revenue generating?

    WBB, like I beleive all of our sports with the exception of Football and Men's basketball, was not a profit generating sport. All of our income came from those other two sports. With the consistent crowds and the ability to bump prices a bit for tickets, along with limited TV revenue, has WBB become a profit generating sport yet?



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    Re: Revenue generating?

    As recently as a year or two ago, Connecticut was the only WBB program in the country that didn't bleed $.



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    Re: Revenue generating?

    Quote Originally Posted by becrisgreg View Post
    As recently as a year or two ago, Connecticut was the only WBB program in the country that didn't bleed $.
    Not even Tennessee makes money off of WBB? That's surprising.




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    Re: Revenue generating?

    Two words:

    TV



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    Re: Revenue generating?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnsonjj View Post
    WBB, like I beleive all of our sports with the exception of Football and Men's basketball, was not a profit generating sport. All of our income came from those other two sports. With the consistent crowds and the ability to bump prices a bit for tickets, along with limited TV revenue, has WBB become a profit generating sport yet?
    Not even close to breaking even unfortunately.



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    Re: Revenue generating?

    I'm under the impression that few if any WBB programs have a positive cash flow. However, I'm glad we have good attendance as that means it is less of a drain on our overall atheltic budget. Here's to the Twister Sisters!!



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    Re: Revenue generating?

    I think UConn, Tennessee, and maybe Texas are in the black. I'll see if I can find numbers somewhere.



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    Re: Revenue generating?

    I suspect national TV pays better than Mediacom. With several upcoming ranked opponents and the relatively large ISU fan base, I wonder if we will get more national broadcast time.


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    Re: Revenue generating?

    Equity in Athletics Data Analysis Cutting Tool Website

    I got numbers from 06-07, but they are close to worthless. There's a lot of creative accounting likely going on: out of 330-odd Div I schools, 119 claim their revenue exactly equals their expenses for WBB.

    I'm curious how Boston College and Marquette both managed revenues around $3 million. ISU's revenue of $840,000 is around 140th. Wake Forest claims revenue of $19,811 and expenses of $2.2 million. I wonder if there's a big difference from school to school how donations are allocated.

    I'm wrong about Tennessee and Texas. In 06-07, they both had expenses greater than revenues. 25 schools listed revenues greater than expenses, but like I said I don't know how much to trust these numbers. UConn is #1 with nearly $700,000 in profit, which is certainly possible.

    Big 12/Big 10 teams near the bottom -- numbers from 06-07:
    1. Texas A&M (nearly $3.5 million in the red)
    2. Kansas
    7. Texas
    9. Iowa
    10. Michigan State
    11. Oklahoma
    13. Michigan
    18. Colorado
    20. Indiana (around $2m in the red)
    21. Northwestern
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    33. Missouri
    34. Nebraska
    40. Purdue
    41. Wisconsin
    44. Iowa State (about $1.5m in the red)


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    Re: Revenue generating?

    It is nearly impossible to compare organization to organization depending on how the do their accounting, and very hard to demonstrate other intangibles that affect the bottom line.

    For example:
    Who gets credit for concession sales?
    Where advertising monies get distributed?
    What expenses and salaries are absorbed by the athletics department, by the school? - i.e. maintenance, lights, stadium use, etc. I am sure some universities do a charge back to programs, others many not.
    Private universities can do things a whole lot differently.
    Keep in mind, universities are non-profit entities, and as such, as much as possible often gets billed to programs as possible that can "raise" money.

    These are just a few things.

    As much national TV time as Tennessee gets and high volume ticket sales and big donors TN has, I would be surprised that they are "losing" money. Last year I believe TN had over 1/2 their games nationally televised. Few men's programs can claim that prestige.



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    Re: Revenue generating?

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedredbird View Post
    As much national TV time as Tennessee gets and high volume ticket sales and big donors TN has, I would be surprised that they are "losing" money. Last year I believe TN had over 1/2 their games nationally televised. Few men's programs can claim that prestige.
    Their coaches also get paid a TON... Thats a big hit...



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    Re: Revenue generating?

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    Their coaches also get paid a TON... Thats a big hit...
    So does UConn's. Last time I looked Pat was #1 and Geno was #2. And Uconn who doesn't get as much national TV is making money supposedly.

    Not that its relevant, but she should get paid what she does.



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    Re: Revenue generating?

    Thanks all for the info...and to think I was getting after my 11 year-old son last night for asking for an answer from me rather than looking it up for himself!



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