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    Thumbs up Rice players weren't touted recruits

    Alabama Commit List for 2009

    (I couldn't get the link to work, just click it and then go to Rice 2004)

    Rice QB is Chase Clement who was a 1* recruit
    Receiver= Dillart, a 2*

    I know * don't mean everything but there must be a great deal of player development.


    I remember hearing G. Chiz had a poor defense statistically at Texas, even with the two Griffins and every player was a 4 or 5 star recruit. Texas won because they had VY, and amazing talent, not because of a D-Cord.

    I think Herman could really turn this offense into a power. And that means scoring in the red-zone!



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    Re: Rice players weren't touted recruits

    ESPN - Rice Football - Owls Schedule - College Football


    The stars to stats comparison is unfair. It fails to include competition.



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    Re: Rice players weren't touted recruits

    Hey, Rice actually beat the powerhouse Western Michigan team!


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    Re: Rice players weren't touted recruits

    Quote Originally Posted by ajk4st8 View Post
    ESPN - Rice Football - Owls Schedule - College Football


    The stars to stats comparison is unfair. It fails to include competition.
    I was gonna say, they are pry playing 1 and 2 *'s on the other team as well...I see your point and hope your right...



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    Re: Rice players weren't touted recruits

    I think this is a good and valid point regardless of competition.

    Recruiting wise, neither ISU or Rice have ever been able to get the superior talent level of the Soohorns (that's my new name to describe both teams when talking about OU and UT comparisons b/c it's usually 1 in the same) athletes & probably never will......so you need systems that can neutralize or at least decrease the talent gap of the other team while maximizing the talent level on your team.

    Pretty sure I read that Rice went from winning 3 games in 2007 to 10 this year - that takes a great system regardless of your talent. I think this Herman guy looks very promising with a guy like Paul Rhoads leading the way. I also think that the offensive oc hire was much more important than the dc hire in our situation b/c I really believe in Rhoads' input for our D.

    Anyway, enough rambling.....I'm just getting excited - for some reason it's easy for me to get excited when good people are in charge - I....S.....U!


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    Re: Rice players weren't touted recruits

    Im glad Herman made the move this year. Next year's non conference schedule is brutal.



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    Re: Rice players weren't touted recruits

    yes 3 wins to 10 wins is impressive....While I don't see us winning ten I do see us winning more than 3 which is more than cheese **** could do...

    My only concern-

    The players will have to adapt to yet another new offense and we will hear for the next couple years how the coaches don't really know the players, blah blah blah...That drives me nuts!



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    Re: Rice players weren't touted recruits

    Quote Originally Posted by jj-cyclones View Post
    yes 3 wins to 10 wins is impressive....While I don't see us winning ten I do see us winning more than 3 which is more than cheese **** could do...

    My only concern-

    The players will have to adapt to yet another new offense and we will hear for the next couple years how the coaches don't really know the players, blah blah blah...That drives me nuts!
    Good post. I am hopeful that Herman can take the players already in place and elevate the entire offensive attack.

    Just curious, I don't know much about TH. Have most of the people here heard of him before and was he one of the people that everyone was looking forward to having as an OC. Again, I don't know much about the guy other than what I have read here.


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    Re: Rice players weren't touted recruits

    Quote Originally Posted by URBCLONE View Post
    Good post. I am hopeful that Herman can take the players already in place and elevate the entire offensive attack.

    Just curious, I don't know much about TH. Have most of the people here heard of him before and was he one of the people that everyone was looking forward to having as an OC. Again, I don't know much about the guy other than what I have read here.
    In all honesty...If Herman would have been introduced as our head coach I would have been more excited, it was thrown around this website about getting him as a HC. So to answer your question, the only time I have heard of him was on this board. Once I found out he was Rice's offensive coor. I knew Rice had a great year and their offense was "money" all year long so I have pretty happy with the hire.

    IMO the OC and DC are just as or maybe more important than the HC...We found that would last year, I think most people where mad at Mcfarland and Bolt rather and cheese****....



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    Re: Rice players weren't touted recruits

    +1 for Soohorns. Like it.



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    Re: Rice players weren't touted recruits

    Quote Originally Posted by jj-cyclones View Post
    . . . IMO the OC and DC are just as or maybe more important than the HC...
    Except, that the HC hires the OC and the DC, so he better have an outstanding ability to identify and hire top-quality people . . . but, I understand what you're saying ;-)

    A quality staff is just so important. I don't have a basis to make such a judgment, but instincts-wise, imho PR is assembling an outstanding group of professional coaches. That's probably PR's most important job here, which jives with your point.


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    Re: Rice players weren't touted recruits

    The kids love Herman and when they all bought into his system it turned things around fast...We are proud of what we did here!!



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