View Poll Results: What should the NCAA football postseason be like?

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  • Keep it the way it is

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  • 16 team playoff

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  • 8 team playoff

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  • 16 team playoff with 16 bowls for good teams that don't make the playoff

    27 24.77%
  • 7 wins bowl eligible with 20 bowls

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    Re: football playoffs

    If they go to a 16 team playoff who can afford to go to all of the games if your team is one of the good ones? Do people skip the early rounds so they can afford the later ones? I can't see anybody but the upper crust, or stupid, attending more than one "bowl game".

    Edit: I see that the attendance thing was discussed. 16 team will never happen.



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    Re: football playoffs

    I chose the 8-team playoff but would like to see some other bowls too. Not as many as there are now, though.




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    Re: football playoffs

    I think some people get confused and think playoff=no bowl games. You keep all the bowl games so they make their $$ and incorporate the playoff into them. The argument about people not attending is complete hogwash. Don't try and tell me that people would hold off attending a national semifinal because they've already seen them play earlier in the playoff.



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    Re: football playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by cyingreen View Post
    If I understand the 16 team playoff correctly, you would have the two teams in the finals playing perhaps 17 games in a season. 12 regular season games, possibly a conference championship game, then 4 additional games in the playoffs. We'd better add more scholarships to make sure there are enough healthy bodies by the end of the process. While a playoff based strictly on the BCS rankings would be interesting, it would be better to keep it to 8.

    FCS (Division II) plays a 16-game playoff. If their bodies can handle it, so should FBS (Division I) players.

    I would prefer we got to a 16 game playoff, taking the 11 conference champs, plus 5 at larges. If the amount of games is a concern, than go back to the 11 game season.



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    Re: football playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by wonkadog View Post
    I think some people get confused and think playoff=no bowl games. You keep all the bowl games so they make their $$ and incorporate the playoff into them. The argument about people not attending is complete hogwash. Don't try and tell me that people would hold off attending a national semifinal because they've already seen them play earlier in the playoff.
    Yes, they would.
    Could you afford to travel to two or three separate neutral field games possibly on opposite ends of the country in consecutive weeks?

    The two likely scenarios for most people would be either go to the first playoff game (most likely) or wait for a semifinal or national championship game.

    VERY few people can afford either the time or the money to do that. And if they did, they would likely spend less time at the destination of the bowl game, and that hurts the viability of the bowl, since they largely exist to stimulate tourism.

    IMO, playoffs and bowls are mutually exclusive. You can have one, but not the other. Bowl games just wouldn't be financially viable with the existence of a playoff.

    I'd like to go back to the pre-BCS days and just have a +1 game after all the bowls are over between the top 2 teams based on their BCS rankings after the bowl games are played out. I'd like to eliminate any teams participating in a bowl that is played after 1 Jan from consideration for the +1 game.

    I'd like to tweak the BCS rankings to give human polls the same amount of influence as the computer polls, and add as many more computer polls to the equation as possible.

    I'd also like to include margin of victory in all those equations, with a cap of, say 20 points.


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    Re: football playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by jumbopackage View Post
    Yes, they would.
    Could you afford to travel to two or three separate neutral field games possibly on opposite ends of the country in consecutive weeks?

    The two likely scenarios for most people would be either go to the first playoff game (most likely) or wait for a semifinal or national championship game.

    VERY few people can afford either the time or the money to do that. And if they did, they would likely spend less time at the destination of the bowl game, and that hurts the viability of the bowl, since they largely exist to stimulate tourism.
    IMO, you'd have to have at least the earlier playoff games on the home fields of the higher ranked teams, similar to the NFL. Otherwise I do believe you would see decreased attendance at neutral sites.




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    Re: football playoffs

    16 team playoff and 16 bowls... Disband a couple of the smaller conferences and have them join others to there are 8 conferences. Every team has a conference championship game which is essentially the first round of the playoffs with all money going to the conference then play it down from 8...



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    Re: football playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by jumbopackage View Post
    Yes, they would.
    Could you afford to travel to two or three separate neutral field games possibly on opposite ends of the country in consecutive weeks?

    VERY few people can afford either the time or the money to do that. And if they did, they would likely spend less time at the destination of the bowl game, and that hurts the viability of the bowl, since they largely exist to stimulate tourism.

    IMO, playoffs and bowls are mutually exclusive. You can have one, but not the other. Bowl games just wouldn't be financially viable with the existence of a playoff.

    I'd like to go back to the pre-BCS days and just have a +1 game after all the bowls are over between the top 2 teams based on their BCS rankings after the bowl games are played out. I'd like to eliminate any teams participating in a bowl that is played after 1 Jan from consideration for the +1 game.
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    I can't believe there are still those favoring a +1 system. It's absolutely ridiculous and solves nothing. If nothing else it would just add more debates over who gets that +1 game.

    As for attendance issues, you obviously have at least the 1st round of the playoff at home sites - guaranteed sellouts.



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    Re: football playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    16 team playoff and 16 bowls... Disband a couple of the smaller conferences and have them join others to there are 8 conferences. Every team has a conference championship game which is essentially the first round of the playoffs with all money going to the conference then play it down from 8...
    I like this idea.


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    Re: football playoffs

    We'll never see a playoff system because of the money involved with the bowl system as well as the costs associated with the fans having to travel to multiple games. Think about it, with an 8 team playoff if you made the title game you'd have to travel 3 times or the other case would be those 3 games would have lower attendance as fans decided which game(s) they would attend if they could not afford to possibly go to all 3.


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    Re: football playoffs

    Well, the way the postseason is now, I think it's 34 teams that'll be able to say they won something at the end of the year. I'm just worried that ISU would never make even a 16 game playoff.



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    Re: football playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by Drive4cy View Post
    Plus 1 is all I want. Otherwise, keep it as is.
    I tend to agree with this. A +1 would take care of things most years. This year it would be USC v. Oklahoma/Florida. Texas and Utah could also end up with legitimate bones to pick, but **** happens sometimes, and would happen less often with a +1. I would always put a one-team-per-conference limit on the top 4, so a plus one would never fix a 2008 Texas scenario.

    I would not go for more than an 8 game playoff, as 16 is too many. Playing games in some of the northern stadiums in late December would be awful. (Think JTS right now).

    One interesting thing about the current system is that every single game matters. Its kind of like a season long playoff. A large playoff would deteriorate this aspect of the game. Rarely are there more than 4 teams with a legitimate claim to the national title, and a plus one can create a 4 team playoff. The bowls might have to be slightly tweaked to ensure that a 1-4 and 2-3 matchup is created.


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    Re: football playoffs

    The problem with the plus one is that it still doesn't solve the problem that going into the year, half the teams can't even qualify to play in the championship, no matter how good they are and who they beat... IMO all 119 teams should have the chance to play for the championship, not just the ones that have money...



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    Re: football playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    16 team playoff and 16 bowls... Disband a couple of the smaller conferences and have them join others to there are 8 conferences. Every team has a conference championship game which is essentially the first round of the playoffs with all money going to the conference then play it down from 8...
    Good idea.

    What about this, probably would never happen because it's way too drastic of change but...we're at 119 FBS teams now. Add one more so we have 120.

    Then, with a little creative restructuring you can have 12-10 team conferences. Each conference plays a nine-game round robin scheudle, plus three out of conference games.

    12 nice, neat, conference champions, the top four ranked champs get byes, the other 8 play a first round game, and then you're down to your 8 team playoff. Of course, if you wanted a 16 team, playoff, 4 at-large bids could be thrown in.

    Or you could have ten 12-team conferences, with 10 champs and two at large spots, using the 12 team bracket previously discussed.



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    Re: football playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeyeguy85 View Post
    Good idea.

    What about this, probably would never happen because it's way too drastic of change but...we're at 119 FBS teams now. Add one more so we have 120.

    Then, with a little creative restructuring you can have 12-10 team conferences. Each conference plays a nine-game round robin scheudle, plus three out of conference games.

    12 nice, neat, conference champions, the top four ranked champs get byes, the other 8 play a first round game, and then you're down to your 8 team playoff. Of course, if you wanted a 16 team, playoff, 4 at-large bids could be thrown in.

    Or you could have ten 12-team conferences, with 10 champs and two at large spots, using the 12 team bracket previously discussed.
    That is also a thought I have had, I even went as far to draw up mock conference...



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