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    Our Offense

    Am I the only one that sees our offense as terrible! Everyone seems to have now clue what to do. It is pretty easy to guard 5 guys who stand in position and dont move! Lucca can shot but doesnt play defense all the time and brackins is a man lost half the time. We dont need another big who cant bang down low and wants to shoot outside all the time! Cant we bring another Homan Back.



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    Re: Our Offense

    I really hoped Brackins would have spent a lot of time in the weight room in the off-season, but it looks like that didn't happen. He has a nice touch offensively if he is matched against someone smaller/weaker, but I've said it before and I'll say it again: we need a thug to complement him on the inside. Not a 7 foot tall stick, not a tall 3 point shooter...a thug. Maybe Hamilton can become that guy with another year of training. If that happens and if Colvin comes in ready to play PG, we could be very good next year.


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    Re: Our Offense

    Our offense seems a bit awkward, I'd agree.



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    If we hit 70 points, we are lucky.


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    Re: Our Offense

    Get used to it. That's Macs style.



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    Re: Our Offense

    Haven't you ever watched a Coach Mac team play before? His teams rarely score a lot of points. Neither did Tim Floyd's. There's more than one way to win.

    We continue to be limited on offensively skilled players this year, although we have added some nice players. We do have a ton of shooters.

    We have 2 guys that can take the ball to the rack. We have one bigman that can be a low post scoring threat.

    With Gilstrap and Colvin coming next year, that really makes a big difference becaues it adds to each of the two previous groups I mentioned.



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    Re: Our Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by 06Panther View Post
    Get used to it. That's Macs style.
    Mac's team will never win many games in big 12. Mac is not meant to be a big 12 coach.


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    Re: Our Offense

    Mac's 20 win teams at UNI had one player in common: Eric Coleman. And for a coach who couldn't coach or recruit Big XII players, Coleman could have been one. I think he had a double/double in every game he played against ISU.

    We don't have an equivalent player to Coleman and haven't had one since Mac has been here. When we get one, we'll be fine.


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    Re: Our Offense

    According to KenPom, the quality of the defenses we've played so far is 330th of 344 D-1 teams.

    Additionally, none of UC Davis, Hawaii, UNI, and Drake are in the top 200 (out of 344) defensively. We failed to put up 1 point per possession against any of those teams. That's terrible. And that may be putting it lightly.

    9 of our remaining opponents are top 40 (out of 344) defensively in the nation. (KU, KSU, NU, UT, OU, Baylor).

    This season could be ugly unless we find a way to put the ball in the hole.

    edit: Links for those who are interested:
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    http://kenpom.com/sked.php?y=2009&team=Iowa%20St.&t=p
    http://kenpom.com/rate.php?s=AdjDE



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    Re: Our Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by CYCRAZY View Post
    Am I the only one that sees our offense as terrible! Everyone seems to have now clue what to do. It is pretty easy to guard 5 guys who stand in position and dont move! Lucca can shot but doesnt play defense all the time and brackins is a man lost half the time. We dont need another big who cant bang down low and wants to shoot outside all the time! Cant we bring another Homan Back.
    No, I go to ISU games with a former D1 bball player and he sees nothing but standing around.



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    Quote Originally Posted by clonomaniac View Post
    Mac's team will never win many games in big 12. Mac is not meant to be a big 12 coach.

    Thank you Mr. Fate. Please tell me, am I meant to win the lottery or drive a sports car? Oh Oh, will I be a doctor?



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    Re: Our Offense

    woah, a basketball thread? haven't seen one of these in quite awhile!



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    Re: Our Offense

    Offensively, any good team has a balance of three factors:

    1. Outside shooting
    2. Pentetrate and finish
    3. Low post presence: scoring and offensive rebounding

    We've got #1 down. We simply don't have #2 and #3, talent-wise. As long as we have little finishing from the dribble drive or low post presence, we're going to see strong defensive pressure on the perimeter by GOOD defensive teams, and that will keep us from scoring.

    If you believe this is a long-term plan, to build ISU into a consistent nationally competitive team ( and i do), you build each piece one at a time. We're addressing #2 with Colvin and Gilstrap next year. Still one more piece now, it's really time to challenge Brackins to step up. A lot of people questioning whether he is capable of being a low post presence.



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    Re: Our Offense

    One big piece of the puzzle we are missing. A wing player.

    Answer: Gilstrap



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    Re: Our Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by ce1 View Post
    Offensively, any good team has a balance of three factors:

    1. Outside shooting
    2. Pentetrate and finish
    3. Low post presence: scoring and offensive rebounding

    We've got #1 down. We simply don't have #2 and #3, talent-wise. As long as we have little finishing from the dribble drive or low post presence, we're going to see strong defensive pressure on the perimeter by GOOD defensive teams, and that will keep us from scoring.

    If you believe this is a long-term plan, to build ISU into a consistent nationally competitive team ( and i do), you build each piece one at a time. We're addressing #2 with Colvin and Gilstrap next year. Still one more piece now, it's really time to challenge Brackins to step up. A lot of people questioning whether he is capable of being a low post presence.
    Your forgetting one that is probably most important... Moving without the ball... We are terrible at moving without the ball...

    Moving without the ball makes the defene work and helps teams with lesser talent compete (see Princeton offense).



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