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    Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    for our ISU job?

    First, I'm a loyalist - when I believe in an organization's leadership. I believe in JP, so I'll happily welcome whomever he selects as our next football coach, be it Farley, Gill, Patterson, or someone else.

    Second, I'm posting a separate thread about Patterson hoping that some focused information from my compadres here might be forthcoming.

    Gill seems like an outstanding candidate, but a key reason to support Patterson, it seems to me, is that he built a weak TCU football program into something of a powerhouse. More importantly, Patterson SUSTAINED TCU's strength over time.

    And, there's that Texas angle, too. The state is our No. 1 recruiting field, and Patterson knows the "Republic" inside out.

    So, I ask, anyone here have evidence that the ISU-Patterson link is a two-way street, or is the only thing at work here speculation?

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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    Didn't Franchione originally build TCU into a decent team?

    Patterson didn't start from scratch.



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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    He is by far my number one choice, and was last time around as well. I believe his wife has some tie to ISU/Ames, but I cant recall exactly what it is. Turner Gill would be great, but Gary Patterson would be outstanding!



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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    patterson would be a slam dunk.

    I am afraid we cannot afford him


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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CyValley View Post
    for our ISU job?

    First, I'm a loyalist - when I believe in an organization's leadership. I believe in JP, so I'll happily welcome whomever he selects as our next football coach, be it Farley, Gill, Patterson, or someone else.

    Second, I'm posting a separate thread about Patterson hoping that some focused information from my compadres here might be forthcoming.

    Gill seems like an outstanding candidate, but a key reason to support Patterson, it seems to me, is that he built a weak TCU football program into something of a powerhouse. More importantly, Patterson SUSTAINED TCU's strength over time.

    And, there's that Texas angle, too. The state is our No. 1 recruiting field, and Patterson knows the "Republic" inside out.

    So, I ask, anyone here have evidence that the ISU-Patterson link is a two-way street, or is the only thing at work here speculation?

    Thanks.
    I agree with your point, but I think the reason that Patterson is an excellent candidate is the same reason that we won't get him. The fact that he's proven that he can sustain success will allow him to pick a higher profile job when he feels the time is right.

    That is also part of the reason I think we might have a shot at Gill. He doesn't have the resume that Patterson has to fall back on and may need to strike while the iron is hot since a seasons long pattern of winning is still a bit of a question mark for him.



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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TykeClone View Post
    Didn't Franchione originally build TCU into a decent team?

    Patterson didn't start from scratch.
    Yes, TCU was 10-1 in Franchione's last season there (2000). Patterson took over at the end of that season and coached TCU to a loss in the Alabama bowl. From that point forward, Patterson has had some up and down years, but mostly up.

    I am concerned about how well a guy like Patterson can recruit once he is 1000 miles from Texas.

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    2004 TCU 5–6
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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    I think either Gill or Patterson would be great. However, the one thing that leads me towards Gill is recruiting......I have to believe it would be easier to recruit to TCU (being in Texas) than at Buffalo. That alone makes me think the work Gill has done to be very impressive.


    Now that I'm done wasting any of my time being ****** at our former FRAUD of a coach, I'm focusing on the excitement who we're going to get!



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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    Patterson graduated from Kansas State so there is Big 12 ties and his wife is from Ames. This would be his chance to get with a BCS school. He would be a good hire.



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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    Gary Patterson, if interested, should be our number one choice.



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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by StLouisClone View Post
    Yes, TCU was 10-1 in Franchione's last season there (2000). Patterson took over at the end of that season and coached TCU to a loss in the Alabama bowl. From that point forward, Patterson has had some up and down years, but mostly up.

    I am concerned about how well a guy like Patterson can recruit once he is 1000 miles from Texas.
    Oops! Then, Patterson did not build the program. But he did maintain it.

    But, consider his wide and deep Texas contacts. Since ISU will recruit heaviest there regardless (I'm assuming). . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Palmer View Post
    patterson would be a slam dunk. I am afraid we cannot afford him
    What does he earn, anyone know?

    TCU is a private institution, correct? If so, probably has quite a large investment in Patterson. Hard to see how we could outbid TCU; good point.


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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CyValley View Post
    Oops! Then, Patterson did not build the program. But he did maintain it.

    But, consider his wide and deep Texas contacts. Since ISU will recruit heaviest there regardless (I'm assuming). . . .



    What does he earn, anyone know?

    TCU is a private institution, correct? If so, probably has quite a large investment in Patterson. Hard to see how we could outbid TCU; good point.

    I do know Minnisota offered him 2 million...and he turned them down.

    I would love to have Patterson


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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    Ya know, Pollard has said many times - in order to win - we have to take risks. That usually refers to dollars.

    I'd be completely ok with giving Patterson a fat contract, if he is truly interested in coming to ISU and helping us win.

    If ISU is not willing to pay a coach like Patterson what he's worth - what are we really expecting to get from someone else?

    Not a time to go bargain shopping...much hangs in the balance of this hire.



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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    Everyone has been trying to get Patterson for the last 5 years. I'm not sure why he would come to Ames, but if he does, AWSOM.

    I thought he was going to KSU where he played at. Not sure why he had a change of heart, but he would be a great coach.



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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    Ya know, Pollard has said many times - in order to win - we have to take risks. That usually refers to dollars.

    I'd be completely ok with giving Patterson a fat contract, if he is truly interested in coming to ISU and helping us win.

    If ISU is not willing to pay a coach like Patterson what he's worth - what are we really expecting to get from someone else?

    Not a time to go bargain shopping...much hangs in the balance of this hire.

    makes sense


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    Re: Should Patterson be the ideal man . . .

    We can't offer 2 mil though can we?



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