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    Why not Loney?

    Why can't this guy get a look? What are the red flags I don't know about?



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    Re: Why not Loney?

    I just posted in a different thread...

    My gut feeling is that Loney could be the best long-term solution - but - there are certainly bigger flashes in the pan that could be good in more immediate terms.


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    Re: Why not Loney?

    Why not Loney?
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    Re: Why not Loney?

    My only concern would be his ability to recruit. He can certainly coach.



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    Re: Why not Loney?

    Quote Originally Posted by RotatingColumn View Post
    Why can't this guy get a look? What are the red flags I don't know about?
    I would love to have Loney, but I think people are concerned about whether or not he can recruit. Also, he doesn't have a lot of head coaching experience. A year at Drake isn't a lot of information to determine whether or not he can actually coach.


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    Re: Why not Loney?

    As isufbcurt said, he is very coach to reaching the NFL coaching pension, which is a big deal in the long run and obviously important to him

    I also wonder about his ability to assemble a staff, recruit, and inspire young men as he has been out of the college game a while now...



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    Re: Why not Loney?

    Have you seen Loney's record as head coach? It's not exactly awe-inspiring.



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    Re: Why not Loney?

    If we hire a coordinator it should be Loney. I would rather have a proven HC first and foremost.



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    Re: Why not Loney?

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    As isufbcurt said, he is very coach to reaching the NFL coaching pension, which is a big deal in the long run and obviously important to him
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    I have a feeling that the NFL pension would be the last thing on his mind. If he would get this job at 1 million/year the pension thing wouldn't matter. It's my understanding that he's been in the NFL long enough that his percentage is already pretty high. From what I know of Loney (probably more than 99% of you), money would never be a factor. He is ISU 100%.

    Maybe the recruiting thing would be an issue but I promise you that our offense would rock. Take a look at the offensive numbers while he was at U of Minnesota along with ISU.

    In the end I don't think it matters because I think Pollard will go after a young/hot coach, which is fine.



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    Re: Why not Loney?

    Love Steve Loney. Think he grades out best overall for my metrics (long-termness, career progression/talent, fit w/schoo....though i hate to say 'fit' w/o thinking of Jay Jacobs).

    BUT people will bag on him b/c he's not a splash hire. And, as we learned with the McCarney retrospective from JP....Jamie has to make a splash hire so we can fund the growth vision.



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    Re: Why not Loney?

    As a side note, I doubt if you'll find a harder working coach. I've seen his work ethic and he starts the day at 5am and usually got home around 1am and this was while he was filling in as head coach. When he was with the Vikings he would sleep in the office.



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    Re: Why not Loney?

    Am I wrong or isn't he "retired"?

    I know people can easily unretire, but if he feels he's not up to the day-to-day grind anymore, then I certainly don't want him.



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    Re: Why not Loney?

    While I really like the guy and hope he is part of the staff, I don't think he is our best option at HC.

    I also seem to remember he abandoned us pretty late in 2003 to go to the Vikings. Needless to say, DMac couldn't find a capable replacement and that really hurt our team.


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    Re: Why not Loney?

    100% loyal to his alma mater so when he starts winning he stays, that is what we need.
    Can you say Frank Beamer at Va Tech....



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    Re: Why not Loney?

    Quote Originally Posted by bawbie View Post
    Am I wrong or isn't he "retired"?

    I know people can easily unretire, but if he feels he's not up to the day-to-day grind anymore, then I certainly don't want him.
    He's not retired.



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