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    Post Cubs done?

    With the winter meetings to a close, and the holiday season approaching, how much action will there be out of the Cubs? Of course this can only be answered depending on how you look at their post season moves. And the real answer doesn't come until the first day of Spring Training, and even then the work is never done.

    Of course the biggest news out of the Cubs organization, and the entire MLB, was the signing of free agent Alfonso Soriano. With his great speed, and power bat, this guy is a great addition to any big league club. The only downside of his career has been his surplus of errors while at 2nd base. The Washington Nationals may have just fixed that problem for the Cubs, but this raises the question of where will Soriano play? The projected position is in right field which would move lefty Jacque Jones to center. Jones has played in center with his time with the Twins, so this wouldn't be anything new to him. Plus this ensures keeping a left handed batter in the line up which the Cubs desperately need. And NO, Jones has not formally requested a trade, so it seems for now he will still be a Cub.

    The great news from all of this is we secured our lead off spot, and now have our starting outfield in position. You hit two birds with one stone on this signing. But if Soriano is playing right, then who's on second. No, who's on first, or is it third? Anyway, there are a handful of options just as last year. The only difference is, every single one of them can make a difference for the team. Mark DeRosa was signed after a strong showing in '06. Lets just hope it carries over once he may become an everyday player. The Riot (Theriot) is in a close second after what he showed in the second half of the year. He became the most consistent hitter, and was guaranteed to get on base. His defense is no question his strong point as he makes a great utility player. Even if this guys doesn't start, he will be one great player on the bench. Unfortunately, Cedeno didn't live up to expectations, but if you ask me, there was a lot of pressure on him. He did commit too many errors, and slumped on the hitting later in the season. But if he can come out and show us the person we saw at the beginning of last year, you may be seeing him more than you expect.

    But the big question becomes about our pitching. This was the most inconsistent position last year that hurt any chances of the club winning. Three acquisitions have been made since the end of last season that will hopefully make our weakest position into our strongest.

    First and foremost was the trade of David Aardsma for Neal Cotts. This was a great move because it gave us another lefty in the bullpen, and depending on the progress of our injured pitchers, possibly another lefty starter. Cotts has struggled some last year, but has remained a constant pitcher to rely on. Now if that wasn't enough, the Cubs went out and landed free agent Ted Lilly from the Toronto Blue Jays. Here is another lefty who has shown signs of being able to go late in games and keep any team in the hunt of winning. He might not be an ace, but our major problem was having to rely on our bullpen so much last year that everyone got wore out. And now just recently, there is speculation that Jason Marquis has signed with the Cubs. Unfortunately coming off a disappointing couple of season with the Cardinals, he hasn't shown that he can go late into games, and is struggling with his control. Larry Rothschild thinks its all about mechanics. And a plus side is, he had a good season in '04 by leading the team into the playoffs.

    So coming off the end of last year there were 4 goals that Hendry clearly had to accomplish;

    Sign Aramis Ramirez - check
    Acquire two good pitchers - check, check, and check
    Sign Juan Pierre or a new lead off man - check plus
    Secure a strong infield - check

    So all goals have been accomplished according to the list, but are there still moves that could be made? With Prior, Wood, and Miller all uncertain at this point, another pitcher could be in the works. You do have Marshall as an option, but he was too inconsistent and more time in AAA would do him good. In fact all the young guns showed signs of one day being a big league starter, but all need more time.

    I think the bulk of the transactions have been completed and anything from here on out will be securing a strong bench or a good group of relievers. This year Hendry has gone out and spent the money to push the Cubs from last to first, but the games need to be won first.

    Go Cubs!


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    Wait 'til next year!

    oh, is it too early for that?



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    Re: Cubs done?

    As much as it pains me to say it, the Cubs have been done since 1908. Now, to the Series in 07!


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    Re: Cubs done?

    I think they'll still look for another OF or 2 if the situation is right and maybe even another pitcher. They have several young arms they can use in trades (Marshall, Guzman, Marmol, Ryu, etc.) I think they may nab Cliff Floyd as a 4th OF or platoon guy possibly and there have been rumors they are looking to trade for Ryan Church of the Nationals. Plus they were trying to trade Jones during the winter meetings so I don't think they are done dealing yet. As is stands they have $100 mil in payroll committed for 2007 and supposedly the Tribune has given Hendry a ceiling of $120-125 mil if he needs to use it. I think they missed out by letting Lofton go to the Rangers. He would have been a reasonable stop-gap CF until Pie is ready and would have been a nice left-handed bat between Soriano and Lee who gets on base and still has some speed left.



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    Re: Cubs done?

    Don't forget we also signed untility man Daryle Ward. Past his prime, but he is some one that can play 1st and outfield. Not to mention he is the left-handed bench man we have been lookin for. My love for the Cubs have gone from an all-time low two months ago to as excited about the spring as I have ever been. And also there is no truth to the Cubs looking to swap Jones nor did he ask to be traded.



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    Re: Cubs done?

    I was happy to see that Lofton signed with Texas, I didn't want him and his old man cane trying to run around the bases with the Cubs again. Also I'm not too happy at how much Marquis is rumored to be getting but hey, I guess that's what happens when pitching is in high demand during an offseason. I'm still holding out hope that we deal Jones/prospects to Colorado for their pitcher Jennings. All in all an exciting year coming up...



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    Re: Cubs done?

    "And also there is no truth to the Cubs looking to swap Jones nor did he ask to be traded."

    WHAT?? He flat out did everything but say he wanted to be traded in his interview with ESPN. I'm not sure where you get your sources but everyone is saying he wants to be traded and the cubs want to trade him.



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    Re: Cubs done?

    Any franchise that signs Jason Marquis isn't serious about playing winning baseball. The Cubs vs. The Pirates for the cellar in 07. Deal with it, Cubfan.



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    Re: Cubs done?

    I think he's referring to the generic comments the Cubs/Hendry have made in response to the rumors that he asked to be traded. "No truth to that, blah blah blah..." Just typical GM talk, don't know if it's authentic or not.



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    Re: Cubs done?

    expect the cubs to sign cliff floyd. He's from chicago and has narrowed the northside in his top 2. That would add to the now potent OF, which in return would likely result in Jacque Jones being shopped, for pitching or prospects.


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    Re: Cubs done?

    For the first time in years as a Bears and Cubs fan I have NOT had to forget about the current season to look toward the upcoming Bears or Cubs season. Finally next year is over... well where the Bears are concerned. ;)



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    Re: Cubs done?

    Quote Originally Posted by jkoo View Post
    expect the cubs to sign cliff floyd. He's from chicago and has narrowed the northside in his top 2. That would add to the now potent OF, which in return would likely result in Jacque Jones being shopped, for pitching or prospects.
    An outfield of Floyd/Soriano/Murton is really scary, defensively.



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    Re: Cubs done?

    Ha, I don't know...if those guys can throw the ball in the air they have an edge on Jones...



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    Re: Cubs done?

    Quote Originally Posted by travman23 View Post
    I think they'll still look for another OF or 2 if the situation is right and maybe even another pitcher. They have several young arms they can use in trades (Marshall, Guzman, Marmol, Ryu, etc.) I think they may nab Cliff Floyd as a 4th OF or platoon guy possibly and there have been rumors they are looking to trade for Ryan Church of the Nationals. Plus they were trying to trade Jones during the winter meetings so I don't think they are done dealing yet. As is stands they have $100 mil in payroll committed for 2007 and supposedly the Tribune has given Hendry a ceiling of $120-125 mil if he needs to use it. I think they missed out by letting Lofton go to the Rangers. He would have been a reasonable stop-gap CF until Pie is ready and would have been a nice left-handed bat between Soriano and Lee who gets on base and still has some speed left.
    I am a HUGE CUB fan since '69- so here it goes

    First I agree to a certian areas which I will explain. Talks between the Cubs and Floyd's agent have heated up, reports the Chicago Tribune, and the Cubs are likely to sign Floyd to an incentive-laden deal by the end of the month. Newsday previously reported that Floyd's first choice is to play for his hometown Cubs. It is also Floyd's preference to remain in the NL because of his familiarity with the pitching staffs.

    We will have Floyd in the outfield playing centerfield. Sorianno will play left and Jacque Jones will be playing right. People have stipulated that Sorianno might play second the answer is NO-21 errors at second-he wants the outfield.

    Pitching-Prior is working with a specialist in San Diego six days a week, strengthening his right shoulder. But it's December, and the Cubs won't know for sure how Prior is until he gets on the mound in Mesa, Ariz., in February.
    Wood will be in the bullpen till the Cubs organization believes he can be effective in the starting rotation

    As for the starting rotation we know that The "Bull" will be 1st, then Rich hill, Wade Miller, Sean Marshall - 5th being open to see if Prior can possibly be healthy. If Prior is healthy he would most likely be in the 2nd slot.


    Jacque Jones has formally requested a trade. Is there any truth to that?
    The answer is NO

    as of right now there is no centerfeild on the depth chart.

    Cubs will win 90+ games in 2007



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    Re: Cubs done?

    Quote Originally Posted by acrozier22 View Post
    "And also there is no truth to the Cubs looking to swap Jones nor did he ask to be traded."

    WHAT?? He flat out did everything but say he wanted to be traded in his interview with ESPN. I'm not sure where you get your sources but everyone is saying he wants to be traded and the cubs want to trade him.

    I have connections in Chicago with the Chicago Cubs - HE DOES NOT WANT TO BE TRADED



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