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    no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    and done that. Cox, Heemskirk, Young and the gang have been through the mill. There are a veteran good team. All this talk about how we should beat them just because there from the Mo Valley is bs. A good veteran team is a good veteran team. Having said that, ofcourse ISU should have won by 10. Hopefully later in the season this team will do that.



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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    I'd just like to point out that arguably the best team we've EVER had, the 1999-2000, Elite Eight, Big XII Championship, Iowa State team lost to drake by 4 that year... in case any of you had forgotten.



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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclones01 View Post
    I'd just like to point out that arguably the best team we've EVER had, the 1999-2000, Elite Eight, Big XII Championship, Iowa State team lost to drake by 4 that year... in case any of you had forgotten.
    That's totally irrelevant. I hope you were kidding.



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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclones01 View Post
    I'd just like to point out that arguably the best team we've EVER had, the 1999-2000, Elite Eight, Big XII Championship, Iowa State team lost to drake by 4 that year... in case any of you had forgotten.
    AAGHHHHHHH! EVERY SINGLE TIME WE LOSE TO SOME TEAM WE SHOULD BEAT IN NONCON PLAY SOMEONE HAS TO BRING THIS UP!!!!! Yes, we all know that team lost to Drake, but guess what, we've lost to Drake for three years in a row. 2 at Hilton. To ******* Drake! Have you been to the Knapp Center? It's a high school gym! To lose the occasional game to Drake is ok, but seriously, when it becomes a trend, thats not good. That said, I like this team, I think they looked considerably better than last year's team, or McD's first team, but to act like they are anywhere close to the 99-00 is ridiculous. I'm settled down a bit, but it seems like every time we lose to a team we should have beaten, someone has to mention that 99-00 lost to Drake, as if to insinuate that there is no reason for concern and the current team could be just as good....


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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    No it isn't irrelevant. I'm sayin that even when we we're playing the best basketball we ever have, we still lost to drake. I'm not saying this team is anywhere near what that team was, I'm just saying that the argument that we should win because they are an MVC team is BCS. We lose to them on occassion, and even when we have a good team. Other than that, yea... it's irrelevant.



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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclones01 View Post
    No it isn't irrelevant. I'm sayin that even when we we're playing the best basketball we ever have, we still lost to drake. I'm not saying this team is anywhere near what that team was, I'm just saying that the argument that we should win because they are an MVC team is BCS. We lose to them on occassion, and even when we have a good team. Other than that, yea... it's irrelevant.
    Three consecutive years is not an "occasion"


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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclones01 View Post
    I'd just like to point out that arguably the best team we've EVER had, the 1999-2000, Elite Eight, Big XII Championship, Iowa State team lost to drake by 4 that year... in case any of you had forgotten.
    Whoop-dee-doo!

    There are more examples of us losing to Drake and having poor seasons than there are losing to Drake and having good ones.

    Chalk up yet another new thread of duplication.



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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    Yea... it shouldn't be a trend... and I think next year we dismantle them



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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    I am NOT saying we will have a good season because we lost to drake. In no way shape or form. I can see how it looked like I implied it. I'm just saying that, just because they are an MVC team, doesn't mean we will always beat them



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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclones01 View Post
    I am NOT saying we will have a good season because we lost to drake. In no way shape or form. I can see how it looked like I implied it. I'm just saying that, just because they are an MVC team, doesn't mean we will always beat them
    That's not at all what you said. You reminded everyone we lost to Drake and had a great season - once.



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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    and then I clarified



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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    Clarified...backpedaled - it's all good.



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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    haha well yea... I probably should have explained it a little more in the original post. That IS what I was trying to say though.



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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    The one thing I was frustrated with was when the lead was slipping away why didn't Mac put Thompson back in??? All he does is defend well and rebound which was part of how we blew that lead! As much as I defend coach this is 1 time that I will point the finger at some poor coaching strategy down the stretch. I know he wanted to go small to keep up with Drake's guys but when we did that was when we started to lose our grip on the lead.


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    Re: no killer instinct, no rebounding, Drake has been there

    Iowa State should never lose to Drake three years in a row when two of them have been at home. Mac got out coached by a first year coach and that's that. May be a long winter!



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