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    Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    Lots of talk about specific names, but at this point all guesses. I would prefer young up and coming coordinators. Coaches who can eventually be a Head Coach somewhere. Johnny Majors had an extreemly young staff, many of which move to top jobs. And lots of top coaches do the same thing. So the choice.
    1. Seasoned guys who may be beyond their time to move up but have lots of experience
    2. Younger coaches with the desire to continue to move up We tried number 1 with McFarland and Bolt. I'm for Number Two. Other thoughts?



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    Re: Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    I like the idea of an up and coming coach. Many, such as Heipel and Applewhite, have been tutored by some of the best and they are ready to showcase what they have learned at the next level.

    All experience coaches had to be inexperience at one time or another and the only way to see what they can really do is to give them a shot. What is the worst that can happen? We go 2-10!



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    Re: Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    Quote Originally Posted by ketelmeister View Post
    Lots of talk about specific names, but at this point all guesses. I would prefer young up and coming coordinators. Coaches who can eventually be a Head Coach somewhere. Johnny Majors had an extreemly young staff, many of which move to top jobs. And lots of top coaches do the same thing. So the choice.
    1. Seasoned guys who may be beyond their time to move up but have lots of experience
    2. Younger coaches with the desire to continue to move up We tried number 1 with McFarland and Bolt. I'm for Number Two. Other thoughts?
    I'm for people with proven results, but still young...

    Example... Gene Chizik and Bo Pelini. Both are young. If you can find someone on the way up like these guys with some experience. Sign me up.

    Other then that... How many more threads can we start about this coaching stuff? I know each one has a new thought or question, but.... Screw it.. What's one more??



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    Re: Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    Quote Originally Posted by bellzisu View Post
    I'm for people with proven results, but still young...

    Example... Gene Chizik and Bo Pelini. Both are young. If you can find someone on the way up like these guys with some experience. Sign me up.

    Other then that... How many more threads can we start about this coaching stuff? I know each one has a new thought or question, but.... Screw it.. What's one more??

    I got it we make 2 clones on gene chizik and have them as the new coordinators.



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    Re: Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    Quote Originally Posted by cytech View Post
    I got it we make 2 clones on gene chizik and have them as the new coordinators.

    I like your thinking... How far away are we until we can legally do that??



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    Re: Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    Quote Originally Posted by bellzisu View Post
    I like your thinking... How far away are we until we can legally do that??
    I imagine sometime shortly after January 20th



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    Young vs. Old Doesn't Matter

    We need coaches that can do more with less. A OC or DC at a school like OU or Texas gets the best talent in the country. Guys like Heupel or Applewhite might be the real deal- but have they proven they can win with 2 & 3 star recruits? No. Chuck Long had a great pedigree- but how did he do at SDSU?

    I would like to see a DC who has enjoyed success at a BCS conference school. There could be some guys available with head coaches losing their jobs.

    At OC again I think it is important to do more with less and I wouldn't be afraid to take a run at a coordinator at a MAC, WAC or MWC school.

    The one disappointing thing about MacFarland & Bolt being demoted is that GC doesn't have ISU next coach in waiting among his top 2 guys. My hope was that if GC had success and decided to move on after 4 or 5 years, that he had a coordinator in place that could step up to be ISU's next head coach.



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    Re: Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    Offensively, I would like to see a younger coach, but someone who has at least been in a coordinator position at another school, with a track record of impressive offenses.



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    Re: Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    Chizik has experence on D. He needs to hire someone with experence as OC. McFarland did have experence, but Chizik may have had the blinders on when he hired him.


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    Re: Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    i didnt like the McFarland hire intially.. what works in 1-AA (that ******** screen we ran 15 times a game) just doesnt work in the Big XII. on defense i want gene to assume control, he is a defensive master, and he should take over the defense.

    Offensively i would love to see a young guy... Major Applewhite would be nice, but idk that we can pry him away from UT... Malzahn would be a great OC as well. that tulsa offense really knows how to move the ball, and the running backs get a lot of touches, and we have some serious talent at that spot with A-Rob, Schwartz, and Bo.


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    Re: Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneman003 View Post
    and we have some serious talent at that spot with A-Rob, Schwartz, and Bo.
    Remember we have never saw these guys take a snap in a game. We think and we hope we have talent there but until game day we dont know.


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    Re: Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    Remember we have never saw these guys take a snap in a game. We think and we hope we have talent there but until game day we dont know.
    Bo took lots of snaps in the spring game and looked 10x's better than A-rob, Bass, and Scales.....however he was going up against ISU's defense



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    Re: Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    We may want to run, but we still need an offense that scores 30 or more since the scoring is so fantastic. So, iit may be cute to run the ball but when the opponent scores in less than two minutes, you better make lots of points off a running game. The 17-5 scores will not happen in conference. Not sure why people think Nebraska runs the ball either. That is the old days. They passed for 300-400 yards every game and Marlon Lucky and gang were no gangbusters this year.


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    Re: Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    Remember we have never saw these guys take a snap in a game. We think and we hope we have talent there but until game day we dont know.
    uhhh... we have seen A-Rob take tons of snaps man and he is a pretty talented back, and from everything im hearing Bo and Schwartz are right there with him in ability


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    Re: Experience vs. up and coming coach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    We may want to run, but we still need an offense that scores 30 or more since the scoring is so fantastic. So, iit may be cute to run the ball but when the opponent scores in less than two minutes, you better make lots of points off a running game. The 17-5 scores will not happen in conference. Not sure why people think Nebraska runs the ball either. That is the old days. They passed for 300-400 yards every game and Marlon Lucky and gang were no gangbusters this year.
    if we run a similar offense to Tulsa, we will have a quick hit offense even though it is centered around the run game... for the last few years Tulsa has been one of the most prolific offenses around


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