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    Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    Dear Mack Brown,

    I am in awe that you have been interviewed and quoted so many times saying that the Big 12 needs to change to a "head to head" system for a tiebreaker next year. I thought maybe it was misquoted but there you were last night again during the OU/OSU game talking about it again. Do you not realize that head to head IS the tiebreaker and it had to go to a back up tiebreaker for a 3 way tie?

    I think your final quote about it was "I just don't know what I'm supposed to tell my kids when they're watching Oklahoma and Missouri in the Big 12 title game and we beat them both". I would try telling them that if they were in the title game Texas Tech would have the same basic argument

    Somebody needs to tell you that you aren't making any logical sense with these comments, and your assistants should be fired for not doing so and allowing you to look like a fool. I can understand being ****** that you're on the outside looking in, but you need to at least understand how the tie-breaker keeping you out works before discussing it publicly. Try venting about Oklahoma jumping ahead of you instead and you might get some sympathy from me. Know the rules man!

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    Re: Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    HAHA mcnabb



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    Re: Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    Quote Originally Posted by tigershoops31 View Post
    Dear Mack Brown,

    I am in awe that you have been interviewed and quoted so many times saying that the Big 12 needs to change to a "head to head" system for a tiebreaker next year. I thought maybe it was misquoted but there you were last night again during the OU/OSU game talking about it again. Do you not realize that head to head IS the tiebreaker and it had to go to a back up tiebreaker for a 3 way tie?

    I think your final quote about it was "I just don't know what I'm supposed to tell my kids when they're watching Oklahoma and Missouri in the Big 12 title game and we beat them both". I would try telling them that if they were in the title game Texas Tech would have the same basic argument

    Somebody needs to tell you that you aren't making any logical sense with these comments, and your assistants should be fired for not doing so and allowing you to look like a fool. I can understand being ****** that you're on the outside looking in, but you need to at least understand how the tie-breaker keeping you out works before discussing it publicly. Try venting about Oklahoma jumping ahead of you instead and you might get some sympathy from me. Know the rules man!

    Sincerely,

    Donovan McNabb
    Totally disagree with this whole post, I think Coach took the high road, and watch next year the rules will be changed......He knew the rules, but his arguement makes sense......

    No other Team beat them BOTH......

    Just my opinion, but the B!2 looks foolish using the BCS popularity contest to decide it's represenative....



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    Re: Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    Quote Originally Posted by coachdags View Post
    Totally disagree with this whole post, I think Coach took the high road, and watch next year the rules will be changed......He knew the rules, but his arguement makes sense......

    No other Team beat them BOTH......

    Just my opinion, but the B!2 looks foolish using the BCS popularity contest to decide it's represenative....
    What would you suggest for a tie-breaker, after they've already used the head-to-head argument?



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    Re: Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    Quote Originally Posted by coachdags View Post
    Totally disagree with this whole post, I think Coach took the high road, and watch next year the rules will be changed......He knew the rules, but his arguement makes sense......

    No other Team beat them BOTH......

    Just my opinion, but the B!2 looks foolish using the BCS popularity contest to decide it's represenative....
    I get that, but that argument could go on forever...Tech beat Kansas who beat Missouri, etc, etc.

    I think it's stupid to use the BCS rankings system personally and would like to see them use point differential before that, but I can understand why they have done it. Lets say Tech would have been the top team based on point differential but was 3rd of the 3 in the BS polls, the chances of the Big 12 having a team in the National Title would be much lower than the way they have done it.

    I should shoot myself in the face for thinking this, but I wish our conference schedule was set up more like the big 11s and we had the top two teams play in the conference title for things like this...(not from an ISU fan perspective though obviously)



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    Re: Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    IMO, they should just pick a team out of a hat, that would be a lot better than what they are doing now.



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    Re: Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    Here is the current tie-breakers:



    Divisional Tiebreakers: The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:
    1. If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative
    2. If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 7 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.
      1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
      2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division
      3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of fi nish (4, 5 and 6)
      4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;
      5. The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
      6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
      7. The representative will be chosen by draw.



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    Re: Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    Can you imagine a live televised draw (or coin flip) on ESPN to determine the South rep?



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    Re: Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    Quote Originally Posted by theshadow View Post
    Can you imagine a live televised draw (or coin flip) on ESPN to determine the South rep?
    Could you imagine the ratings?



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    Re: Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdave View Post
    What would you suggest for a tie-breaker, after they've already used the head-to-head argument?
    I do not have the answer....?

    The SEC uses the BCS also but they use it to throw out the lowest ranked team of the 3, then they use Head to Head....

    Like I said earlier, I really miss the Big 8 where everyone plays everyone.....

    The BCS webite is a joke (imo) they list all the conferences, then University of Notre Dame....? Money, Influence and power should not decide championships.....I like when we play a game on the field for them....

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    Re: Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    total points scored against common teams


    Hooray for Metaphors!

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    Re: Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonez7 View Post
    IMO, they should just pick a team out of a hat, that would be a lot better than what they are doing now.
    They did.



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    Re: Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdave View Post
    Could you imagine the ratings?
    It would be like a major horse race. Five hours of preview coverage, a couple minutes of action, then another hour of analysis.

    You would need three coin flips. Then, imagine they're all 1-1 after the coin flip round robin. What's next? Rock-paper-scissors? Guess the number? Odd/even?



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    Quote Originally Posted by tman24 View Post
    total points scored against common teams
    But people ***** about teams running up the score...

    I like how the SEC has it.



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    Re: Mack Brown's assistants need to have a talk with him

    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdave View Post
    Here is the current tie-breakers:



    Divisional Tiebreakers: The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:
    1. If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative
    2. If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 7 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.
      1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
      2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division
      3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of fi nish (4, 5 and 6)
      4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;
      5. The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
      6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
      7. The representative will be chosen by draw.
      8. Ro-sham-bo

    You omitted the last tie-breaker. I added it for you. No thanks are necessary.



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