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    DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    Looking to upgrade our DVD player later this year. Debating between an upscaling player and going Blu-ray.

    Anyone else went through this process and have any advice?

    We have a lot of Sony products already...here is the upscaling player I am looking at...

    https://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...52921665393601


    And not sure what Blu-ray player I'd go with, if I went that route...I don't know much about that technology as I deliberately ignored it until the prices came down. In our current living room, we have a 5 speaker system (Klipsch) without a sub (may add one later) - so it need not be the top model. I have an older receiver and may upgrade to one like this one next spring (don't need 7.1 channels obviously)...

    https://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...52921665360001

    I've got a connection where I can get discounts on Sony products...not great...but better than nothing. I know some are not a fan of Sony and I'll listen to other products - but generally I'm set on this brand.



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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    I went the PS3 route. I'm incredibly happy with it. I think the sound is incredibly better than before as with the picture. Sometimes it's creepy how much detail you get. If someone doesn't have good makeup, you'll notice.

    Sorry I don't have any info on other players.


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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    What for a TV is it hooked up to?



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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    Oh and by the way, I have an old Marantz system that was hi-end about 5 years ago. 7.1 capable but only use 5.1, and I feel like their was a drastic difference in sound quality with the new blu-ray player.


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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    Quote Originally Posted by MNclone View Post
    What for a TV is it hooked up to?
    Sorry.

    50" Sony HD rear projection.

    I'm looking to upgrade DVD/receiver to very good, but not great. When we do the basement in a few years, that system will be the one with bells/whistles - hopefully. :)



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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    If I was in the market I would probably go Blu-ray... I think the prices are dropping enough now that it makes sense... However, if you still have a lot of DVD's you would either need to replace them or keep a regular DVD player.



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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    Quote Originally Posted by superdorf View Post
    If I was in the market I would probably go Blu-ray... I think the prices are dropping enough now that it makes sense... However, if you still have a lot of DVD's you would either need to replace them or keep a regular DVD player.
    Blu-ray plays old DVDs and upscales them I believe.



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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    I have a Phillips upconverting DVD recorder and think it works great. It upconverts to 1080i. I don't think there is a very big difference between 1080i and 1080p, but there are definately others who will argue that point.

    I recommend saving your money, but that's me, I'm pretty cheap.

    Edit: Sorry, just saw that the upconverter that you were looking at is 1080p. I would still skip the Blue-Ray.


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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    Quote Originally Posted by MNclone View Post
    I have a Phillips upconverting DVD recorder and think it works great. It upconverts to 1080i. I don't think there is a very big difference between 1080i and 1080p, but there are definately others who will argue that point.

    I recommend saving your money, but that's me, I'm pretty cheap.

    Edit: Sorry, just saw that the upconverter that you were looking at is 1080p. I would still skip the Blue-Ray.
    There is a difference there... but a regular DVD has a native resolution of 480p... while Blu-ray is either 1080i or 1080p
    Good info here:
    Blu-ray.com - Blu-ray FAQ

    Will Blu-ray be backwards compatible with DVD?



    Yes, several leading consumer electronics companies (including Sony, Panasonic, Philips, Samsung, Pioneer, Sharp and LG) have already demonstrated products that can read/write CDs, DVDs and Blu-ray discs using a BD/DVD/CD compatible optical head, so you don't have to worry about your existing DVD collection becoming obsolete. In fact, most of the Blu-ray players coming out will support upscaling of DVDs to 1080p/1080i, so your existing DVD collection will look even better than before. While it's up to each manufacturer to decide if they want to make their products backwards compatible with DVD, the format is far too popular to not be supported. The Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) expects every Blu-ray Disc device to be backward compatible with DVDs.



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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    Quote Originally Posted by superdorf View Post
    If I was in the market I would probably go Blu-ray... I think the prices are dropping enough now that it makes sense... However, if you still have a lot of DVD's you would either need to replace them or keep a regular DVD player.
    I know the ps3 at least plays standard dvds as well. Its the route id recommend



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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    Quote Originally Posted by MNclone View Post
    I have a Phillips upconverting DVD recorder and think it works great. It upconverts to 1080i. I don't think there is a very big difference between 1080i and 1080p, but there are definately others who will argue that point.

    I recommend saving your money, but that's me, I'm pretty cheap.

    Edit: Sorry, just saw that the upconverter that you were looking at is 1080p. I would still skip the Blue-Ray.
    Can you really upgrade to true 1080i? I would think that source data would have to be 1080i capable otherwise you are replacing that with fake data when you upconvert. I don't know, I'm just asking.

    I think the best bet would be to get identical tvs hooked up to various players and decide for yourself. I've seen 1080i tvs that look better than 1080p, and the only reason is because of what is the source it's broadcasting.


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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    Quote Originally Posted by CTAClone View Post
    Can you really upgrade to true 1080i? I would think that source data would have to be 1080i capable otherwise you are replacing that with fake data when you upconvert. I don't know, I'm just asking.

    I think the best bet would be to get identical tvs hooked up to various players and decide for yourself. I've seen 1080i tvs that look better than 1080p, and the only reason is because of what is the source it's broadcasting.
    A very valid point. Which is why I believe that if you have to be looking at them side by side to tell the difference, it is hard to wish you would have gone the other route.
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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    Get a PS3. It will play blu-ray and upscale regular DVD's.

    If you get an A/V receiver make sure you get one with at least 3 HDMI In's and 2 HDMI's out.



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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    Sorry.

    50" Sony HD rear projection.

    I'm looking to upgrade DVD/receiver to very good, but not great. When we do the basement in a few years, that system will be the one with bells/whistles - hopefully. :)
    We have the same TV, and I have mine hooked up to an upscaling DVD player and a PS3. With non blu ray movies, I cannot tell much of a difference, so if that is the source, save the $$ and just get an upscaling player. If you want blu-ray get a PS3, they are the same price as nice players, but you can also play some pretty incredibly games on it. Wait till you see NCAA football on your proj tv!

    btw, when your bulb blows out, traviss carries them for cheaper than I could order it online.


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    Re: DVD players - upscaling and Blu-ray

    As far as telling the difference between different resolution. I have a 35" 1080i Sony TV and you can't tell a huge difference between an upscaled DVD and a 1080i program on TV. They both look good.

    In my basement it's a different story. I have a new Panasonic AE3000U (1080P) projector displayed on a 100" screen and I can tell a huge amount of difference between everything. Standard defintion tv looks terrible and you can tell a big difference between 480p, 1080i, and blu-ray(1080p). The olny two resolutons that look close are 720p and 1080i. A lot comes down to how big you're going and how close you're sitting. Most people can't tell the difference on small tv's.



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